Gary Glitter rape charges dropped?

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 26 Dec 2005, 21:08

From Digital Spy forums:

Glitter's rape charges likely to be dropped
Boxing Day 2005, 17:35 GMT -- by Neil Wilkes

Gary Glitter's child rape charge is likely to be dropped by Vietnamese police, according to his lawyer.

The singer has been held for more than a month on suspicion of lewd acts with children as young as twelve.

Although prosecutors are expected to drop the charge of rape, for which he could have faced the death penalty, the charge of committing lewd acts with children will stand.

Glitter's lawyer Le Thanh Kinh told the BBC: "The [child rape] investigation has ended and the charge will still be the initial one, while additional issues were not raised by investigators, probably because of a lack of evidence."

If convicted, Glitter faces twelve years in prison.

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 26 Dec 2005, 21:51

what an odious fucker that guy is

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 27 Dec 2005, 01:36

Why they dropped them is beyond a joke! he only went over there to prey on kids! its a joke he is alowed to live if you ask me!

flee UK when your a child eviler and go to a child eviler get away with it country! yeah thats justice for all

He should never have been alowwed to leave the UK ever! never mind to there!

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 27 Dec 2005, 05:21

We don't know the facts, there may have been lack of evidence.

The law can't use people's past crimes again so the fact he's been convicted of looking at child porn in the UK can't be used in Vietnam (or in any new UK crime for that matter).

Hence they need to soley look at the facts at hand and if the child were suddenly to say "he wasn't raped" then there you have it.

But yep I agree it's very likely he went to Vietnam for child prostitution. Prostitution is rife in South East Asia, it's all illegal (certainly in the case of Thailand anyway) but the police mostly turn a blind eye to it.

That said 12 years in an Asian jail would be hell!

romerojpg wrote:He should never have been alowwed to leave the UK ever! never mind to there!

Legally how could they stop him?

Sure he should've done time for looking at child pornography but he would still have gotten released at some point.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 27 Dec 2005, 06:17

Point 1. Viewing child pornography and raping a child isn't in the same ballpark. So we shouldn't assume that because guilty of one he's automatically guilty of the other if the court can't prove it.

Point 2. He may still do some serious time for the remaining charges of found guilty (which he PROBABLY is).

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 27 Dec 2005, 15:29

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 27 Dec 2005, 18:32

My point is the law is wrong, it needs to be about 100 times harder on scum like Glitter! and anyone thinking of looking at kid porn, or interacting in it. Infact the law is just pian wrong every single time I see justice dished out in the UK, Murder someone and get 3 months in prison, thats Justice for ya!

When you have something like 12000 images of children on your PC and hand it back to PC world is that normal? no, it should mean no justice from what I see, as people like him are getting the pics and making a market for the evil things people do against children, no punishment is too harsh for scum like that!

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 27 Dec 2005, 18:44

Markgway wrote:Point 1. Viewing child pornography and raping a child isn't in the same ballpark. So we shouldn't assume that because guilty of one he's automatically guilty of the other if the court can't prove it.

Point 2. He may still do some serious time for the remaining charges of found guilty (which he PROBABLY is).

Agree, but sex with underage kids and looking at CP IS wrong, no?

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 27 Dec 2005, 19:24

romerojpg wrote:My point is the law is wrong, it needs to be about 100 times harder on scum like Glitter!

Glitter is a freak, a joke in most people's eyes. His name is a punchline and he's been branded a nonce for life. What else should happen to him? As of yet he's not been found guilty of harming any child. Charges are just that.

When you have something like 12000 images of children on your PC and hand it back to PC world is that normal?

Of course not. It's a sickness. But all I'm saying is that it's not even close to actually commiting a child rape or molestation. It's like the difference between looking at websites which show real dead bodies and murder. Both are wrong -- but it's quite a different kettle of fish to murder someone.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 28 Dec 2005, 01:54

Markgway wrote:Glitter is a freak, a joke in most people's eyes. His name is a punchline and he's been branded a nonce for life. What else should happen to him? As of yet he's not been found guilty of harming any child. Charges are just that.

Another

for Mark.

Besides we don't know what Vietnamese law says, Romero do you? I doubt it.

p.s - It must be Christmas I'm agreeing with Mark

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 28 Dec 2005, 02:06

Harm or not he has admited the Kid porn was his!!!!! in my eyes thats enuff lock him up and neevr let him out!

People who look at babies and children getting raped! they are normal? they are people you want to know?

NO they are all scum, you may stumble on such things on the net if you are looking for them! I have never seen anything like that on the net ever! and anyone who owns such stuff saved on their computer is not a human at all, you may be inquisative about things on the net, even illegal things, but most are normal to think about and want to see.

But children raped I dont fooking think so, only freaks own and look at such things (or the police who have to view this shit too!) and people like that need killing.

If I ever see anything like that on the net I would be very upset, and would not look ever again if I knew where the shit was, these freaks swap images and search them out and they pay the way for the kids to be raped, as they are creating a demand, so anyone looking in my mind deserves the same punishment asthe scum who do it.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 28 Dec 2005, 13:30

Way to go Glitter! your free once more!

Gary Glitter's lawyer has admitted he made payments to the families of the children he is claimed to have abused in Thailand.

Justice is served

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 28 Dec 2005, 20:56

It's Vietnam Romero get the country right!

, Thailand gets enough bad wrap as it is.

I agree that's one weird law, how do the Vietnamese government think that law aids justice is beyond me? For those who don't know in Vietnamese law a sentence can be reduced if you give money to the victims, WTF!!!

p.s - Glitter isn't free Romero he will still serve time but it will only be 6 months to 3 years now, he's still facing molestation charges.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 28 Dec 2005, 22:38

Nope I didnt write that, its what was the main headline on AOL news, its taken word for word from it, they got it wrong, not me. Maybe he has been to both countries or maybe AOL are just crap.

Sadly it just shows up any justice system they have if they can admit they paid them off and nothing is done! if that happened over here at least there would be hell to pay, well a small storm in a T cup.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 28 Dec 2005, 23:31

AOL are crap! For a company their size that's dreadful.

I'm sure he's been to both countries (very few people go to Vietnam but not Thailand now a days) and probably tried to get sex in both but it's Vietnam we're talking about here.

Very different!

The crazy thing is it's LEGAL in Vietnam for them to do that, it's part of their justice system (WTF???) so why not tell people.

p.s - Without listing your source how on earth was I supposed to know btw?

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 01 Feb 2006, 17:39

This has to be the worst comeback attempt by a musician in 2005, closely followed by Michael Jackson.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 01 Feb 2006, 17:41

I hope he never comes back to the UK, unless he is banged up in prison for life!

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 01 Feb 2006, 18:11

romerojpg wrote:I hope he never comes back to the UK, unless he is banged up in prison for life!

So former British glamrock musicians turned kiddy fiddlers are the only male humans in existence who can become pregnant? Interesting.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 04 Mar 2006, 20:45

Glitter has now been given the minimum sentence for his crimes under Vietnam law (3 years) after comitting lewd acts with girls of 11 and 12, but it is said he could be deported back to the UK as early as next year to face a UK court again (I think).

Mark is right, Glitter is a freak