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saltysam wrote:Got the Lethal Weapon set today-checked part 4,it has a running time of 127 minutes 23 seconds.
Seems to be uncut. The BBFC recorded the uncut submission (no uncut version has been passed yet) as 127:12. What rating is the box set overall? Must still be an '18' because of Lethal Weapon (1)?
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Shingster wrote:More picture information
That much was obvious.
more detail
Can you give an example?
It's not worsened either.
Look at the trees in the explosion cap.
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[quote="Markgway" What rating is the box set overall? Must still be an '18' because of Lethal Weapon (1)?[/quote] box set is rated 15.
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Lethal Weapon 1 must have been downgraded then.
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Markgway wrote:Can you give an example?
You have got to be kidding me? I thought the argument on DNR was so rampant across pretty much every film forum on the internet that there wasn't anyone around who couldn't spot DNR as blatant as it is in the old Lethal Weapon BD! Note I did not say the image was sharper, it just has more fine detail, textures are far too smooth on the old release, just look at the shot of the two kids:

http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleiche/i ... #vergleich

Look at this grab, if you can't tell it's been DNR'd by Stevie Wonder then your eyesight is worse than Stevie Wonder's:

http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleiche/i ... #vergleich

Bleurgh!
Look at the trees in the explosion cap.
OH NOES!!! I can't see all the detail in the recesses of that bush as this big house blows up!!! Here's a tip about judging shadow detail Mark, do it in scenes where the detail is needed, ie: scenes with low-lighting. Any idiot with photoshop can bring out the shadows in that explosion shot by fiddling with the highlights, and the general brightness levels on the old release look boosted to me. For a film shot outside in California the variance of shadows and highlights look totally unnatural to me, like the film was shot at dusk. Lethal Weapon is supposed to look contrasty.
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Shingster wrote:You have got to be kidding me? I thought the argument on DNR was so rampant across pretty much every film forum on the internet that there wasn't anyone around who couldn't spot DNR as blatant as it is in the old Lethal Weapon BD!
It must be a blind spot for me then because I don't see any additional detail. I see the grain structure but if natural shouldn't that bring more detail with it? And if DNR doesn't remove grain (and only smooths out the appearence) is that a big problem? It's not like we're talking Predator or Gladiator here.

Also the colours are a bit off. That kid's jacket is bright pink. It was always red from memory.
OH NOES!!! I can't see all the detail in the recesses of that bush as this big house blows up!!! Here's a tip about judging shadow detail Mark, do it in scenes where the detail is needed, ie: scenes with low-lighting. Any idiot with photoshop can bring out the shadows in that explosion shot by fiddling with the highlights, and the general brightness levels on the old release look boosted to me. For a film shot outside in California the variance of shadows and highlights look totally unnatural to me, like the film was shot at dusk. Lethal Weapon is supposed to look contrasty.
Interesting but I don't pretend to be an expert so tone down the sarcasm. I just find it odd that previously seen shadow detail would be missing on a superior transfer. So it only counts on night scenes. Now I know.
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Just noticed this comment at Play.com

"It speaks for itself a uk exclusive this boxset is only available in the uk but beware lethal weapon 4 is still cut WHY and lw2 is the uk cinema release the bbfc still want 2 make our minds up the print transfer is exceptional great price,great films a must buy"

Grammatical nightmares aside... this is surely bollocks?

Link: http://www.play.com/DVD/Blu-ray/4-/1245 ... oduct.html#
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What do the BBFC have to say on their website?
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No point arguing with you Mark on the LW1 transfer, because you are never wrong. :dontknow:

According to a reliable fellow on TheDVDForums, LW4 is uncut, but I don't think he's sat and watched it, he's just looked where the cuts used to be.
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Markgway wrote:Just noticed this comment at Play.com

"It speaks for itself a uk exclusive this boxset is only available in the uk but beware lethal weapon 4 is still cut WHY and lw2 is the uk cinema release the bbfc still want 2 make our minds up the print transfer is exceptional great price,great films a must buy"

Grammatical nightmares aside... this is surely bollocks?

Link: http://www.play.com/DVD/Blu-ray/4-/1245 ... oduct.html#
the guy is talking crap.uk exclusive?the box set is out in OZ & Germany next week. the guy also won't have had his box set from play yet,there's no way you'll get a pre-order from play until the saturday at the earliest.i haven't watched it yet but i'd bet my house that LW4 is uncut.people over at avforums are also confirming it.
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Shingster wrote:No point arguing with you Mark on the LW1 transfer, because you are never wrong. :dontknow:
Just because I have a different POV?
According to a reliable fellow on TheDVDForums, LW4 is uncut, but I don't think he's sat and watched it, he's just looked where the cuts used to be.
Phew. The full list of cuts is on Melon Farmers if anyone wants to satisfy their own curiousity.
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Markgway wrote:Just because I have a different POV?
That's just what I say, when you've accused me of always thinking I'm right ;).
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bradavon wrote:That's just what I say, when you've accused me of always thinking I'm right ;).
Just don't understand why Shingster is getting upset. :dontknow:
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I'm not, we all know by now how anal and argumentative I can get when I really care about a debate! :icon_suspect:

I just don't have the time or the desire (or the discs!) to argue the toss. You're always so sure of your own opinion Mark even when arguing with people who perhaps (and I say perhaps - and not necessarily in this specific case) may be more experienced or knowledgeable on a particular subject than you are. I just think: What's the point?

I will say just one thing, DNR of the kind seen on the old Lethal Weapon disc looks pretty awful on a large projector screen, even when all you're losing is the fine textures.
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It's my opinion. I'm not stating facts. The new disc probably is better and I'd imagine most would agree with you on that. I'm just saying I have a few 'issues' is all. It's not like I'm not gonna buy it when it's on sale. :D
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I'll get it when its on sale too :D
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Lethal Weapon - downgraded to '15':

http://www.bbfc.co.uk/FVF060716
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"Extended Classification Information for this work will be available on or after 22/10/10."

Come on.
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You may be waiting a long time. They always put that disclaimer but frequently don't add the information. See also A Nightmare on Elm Street.
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'Memento: 10th Anniversary Edition' Announced for Blu-ray
The Blu-ray will feature a re-mastered 1080p transfer supervised by Nolan
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/ ... u-ray/5923

Cool, I haven't bought it on BD yet because the current releases haven't made me want to upgrade, will do for this one though.
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Cool, looking forward to this. I havent bought the UK set yet.
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I still haven't got round to watching Memento...
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I haven't watched it in ages, I used to be obsessed with it. This upcoming Blu-ray shall be my return to it!
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I havent watched it in ages either - I thought the UK disc was a 10th AE :?
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Hmm I forgot it had recently been re-released in the UK, I was thinking about the original Pathé release and the US Sony one. I can't find any mention of a remastered transfer on the new UK one though so think I'll still go with the upcoming US one.