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Posted: 28 Jan 2007, 17:03
by degeneration
Brad - I think you missed the point there!! They were talking about Depp's acting in the film being oscar worthy, not the actual film. So comparing them to Goodfellas and Casino is quite pointless as Depp wasn't in them!!
Posted: 28 Jan 2007, 17:40
by bradavon
I know. I still think regardless his acting in Donnie Brasco isn't Oscar worthy.
Posted: 28 Jan 2007, 17:45
by romerojpg
Goodfellas or Casino are balls anyway

as is Donnie Brasco

Gangsta wankfests.
Posted: 28 Jan 2007, 18:02
by bradavon
What are the best gangster flicks Romero?
Posted: 28 Jan 2007, 19:09
by thelostdragon
"Goodfellas" is very overrated and I always thought it was quite boring.
Posted: 29 Jan 2007, 00:27
by Markgway
I happen to really like Donnie Brasco.
I agree Goodfellas is overrated. Always preferred Casino myself.
Posted: 29 Jan 2007, 18:26
by grim_tales
Shingster wrote:grim_tales wrote:Depp actually won the Best Actor Oscar for his performance in the first one
I think Jamie Foxx would beg to differ

Doh! I mean he was nominated. Didn't he win the best actor BAFTA or something that year?
Posted: 29 Jan 2007, 19:19
by romerojpg
bradavon wrote:What are the best gangster flicks Romero?
I honestly cannot think of many that are "great" films. I thought The Limey was far better than most mind you, but off hand I cannot think of any right now. They all seems to blend into one, and all use the same ideas over and over again and sort of merge into one another to me.
Posted: 31 Jan 2007, 11:33
by thelostdragon
Gangster No. 1
Posted: 31 Jan 2007, 22:45
by Yi-Long
I LOVED Goodfellas the first bunch of times I saw it, although there are also times when I'm not 'into' it as much, and then it is pretty boring.
I personally dont like Casino. It starts of very promising and all, but as soon as Sharon Stone turns up, DeNiro changes into a pussywhipped mofo, the movie turns into a relationship drama, and it just ruins what could have been a great gangster-flick.
Donnie Brasco is a nice movie, with some good acting by Depp and Deniro. But the movie looks pretty lowbudget, it isnt all that entertaining or captivating, pretty predictable, the other actors seem to be overacting and just portraying caricatures of italian mafiosi. In the end, t coudl and should have been much better if it would have had a better diractor and/or screenwriter.
Good gangster movies (apart from the HK stuff, obviously) are IMO Layer Cake, Payback, Road to Perdition, The Untouchables, Friend (korean) and A Bittersweet Life (again korean)
I agree with Depp's acting in Brasco being very good, but indeed probably not worth an Oscar (perhaps a nomination)
I do think an actor of his quality should have a few Oscars by now, though. I mean, come on! Even Halle Berry and Kim Basinger have managed to win Oscars(!)
Posted: 31 Jan 2007, 23:25
by Kurgan
Yi-Long wrote:I LOVED Goodfellas the first bunch of times I saw it, although there are also times when I'm not 'into' it as much, and then it is pretty boring.
I was the reverse on the film: I didn't think much to it when I first saw it. It wasn't helped by Lorraine Bracco's character annoying the piss out of me. But the more I've watched it, the more I come to realise how well made it is. Cinematography is excellent, the script is a cracker and the acting (with the exception of DeNiro laughing - I've seen a few films where he's had scenes where he's meant to be laughing, but he always comes off as really fake

) is spot on.
I personally dont like Casino. It starts of very promising and all, but as soon as Sharon Stone turns up, DeNiro changes into a pussywhipped mofo, the movie turns into a relationship drama, and it just ruins what could have been a great gangster-flick.
I just can't get enough of Vegas
Donnie Brasco is a nice movie, with some good acting by Depp and Deniro. But the movie looks pretty lowbudget, it isnt all that entertaining or captivating, pretty predictable, the other actors seem to be overacting and just portraying caricatures of italian mafiosi. In the end, t coudl and should have been much better if it would have had a better diractor and/or screenwriter.
Aside from that I think you mean Pacino (;)), I agree with a few of the points you made. Although I still like the film.

Posted: 31 Jan 2007, 23:29
by Yi-Long
Ow yeah, Pacino
I didnt say I didnt enjoy Brasco. Like I said, it's a good movie and I liked it. I just feel it could have been alot better.
Posted: 01 Feb 2007, 01:22
by thelostdragon
Agree with Yi on his choice of good gangster films. "Road to Perdition", although very inspired by "Lone Wolf & Cub", is a first class gangster film. Probably the best one that was recently made in the USA.
Posted: 01 Feb 2007, 02:53
by Kurgan
I personally didn't think it was as good as the graphic novel (it didn't have the black humour, for starters) but it wasn't too bad.
Posted: 01 Feb 2007, 09:43
by EvaUnit02
The graphic novel sounded too OOT to make into a serious film, seriously John Woo style action? I can't imagine Tom Hanks sliding down bannisters firing akimbo'ed pistols without snickering.
The scene where Tom Hanks mows down all the dudes in the rain with the Tommy gun was perfect IMO.
Posted: 01 Feb 2007, 12:44
by Kurgan
The graphic novel was meant to be an homage to gangster movies in general, including modern stuff, so it did have elements that you wouldn't necessarily associate with Depression-era gangsterism.

But because Mendes decided to play it straight, it did become more serious. I'm not saying it was a bad film; some great visuals (Hanks cocking his gun (oo-er

) whilst striding down a corridor was really well done, and like you said, the Tommy gun sequence) worked well for the film.
Wow, the past page has had nothing to do with
Pirates 3 
Posted: 01 Feb 2007, 13:15
by Yi-Long
I actually also liked the movie better then the book. The movie skipped the whole deal between Hanks and the Police, which was in the book. The book also didnt show the 'love' and 'respect' between mr. Loony/Moony and Hanks' character, and the ending was very different as well.
Posted: 21 Mar 2007, 05:14
by EvaUnit02
Posted: 21 Mar 2007, 15:19
by thelostdragon
Dude, I can't wait!
Posted: 28 May 2007, 18:46
by BiscLimpkit
I thought this was really disappointing.
Posted: 28 May 2007, 20:44
by IronMonkey
I thought it was very dull. The fact that I looked at my watch to see how long it had been on just 20 minutes into the film showed that it just wasn't gripping me at all.
Posted: 28 May 2007, 21:12
by gasteropod
IronMonkey wrote:The fact that I looked at my watch to see how long it had been on just 20 minutes into the film

Posted: 28 May 2007, 22:49
by BiscLimpkit
Did you guys wait till after the credits?
Posted: 28 May 2007, 22:54
by EvaUnit02
BiscLimpkit wrote:Did you guys wait till after the credits?
Lemme guess, crap that leaves it open for a 4th one?
Posted: 28 May 2007, 22:56
by BiscLimpkit
Nope - it was left open for a fourth before the credits.
10 years later, Elizabeth (who hasn't aged at all) has a wee boy and they wait on the edge of a cliff. We see a green flash and William sails into view. Zzzz Zzzz.