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Re: Markgway's Inane Blu Ray Questions Thread

Posted: 18 Aug 2009, 18:10
by Markgway
romerojpg wrote:Do you have to get Region A? as that title and most the other bonds have been cheaper in the UK latley.
Yes, for the original mono track.

Re: Markgway's Inane Blu Ray Questions Thread

Posted: 18 Aug 2009, 19:22
by bradavon
How weird Fox would bother to Region locked the American disc but not elsewhere. I hadn't spotted.

Bond is a perfect example for you buy BD Multi-region is definitely still compulsory. Imagine if you'd got a UK BD Player and had to make do with the 5.1 remixes. Obviously you'd have made do with the DVDs, which would be a shame.

Re: Markgway's Inane Blu Ray Questions Thread

Posted: 19 Aug 2009, 14:13
by grim_tales
I'd love Bond on BD but not with 5.1 remixes :(

Re: Markgway's Inane Blu Ray Questions Thread

Posted: 19 Aug 2009, 15:34
by bradavon
All the Bonds on BD have 5.1 remixes. Which ones do you have?

Re: Markgway's Inane Blu Ray Questions Thread

Posted: 19 Aug 2009, 15:38
by grim_tales
None on BD so far - but on DVD:

OHMSS UE
Dr No UE
You Only Twice UE
Goldfinger UE
A View to Kill UE R1
Spy Who Loved Me UE R1
Live and Let Die UE R1
TND R1 SE
TWINE UE (R2)
Goldeneye SE R2 (uncut)

And CR/QoS.

I think thats it.

Re: Markgway's Inane Blu Ray Questions Thread

Posted: 19 Aug 2009, 16:03
by romerojpg
Markgway wrote:
romerojpg wrote:Do you have to get Region A? as that title and most the other bonds have been cheaper in the UK latley.
Yes, for the original mono track.
Ahhhh :)

Glad I dont care much about it, I would be spending more cash :D

Re: Markgway's Inane Blu Ray Questions Thread

Posted: 19 Aug 2009, 16:46
by gasteropod
I have 5 Bonds on BD and they just sound Mono/stereo anyway.

Re: Markgway's Inane Blu Ray Questions Thread

Posted: 19 Aug 2009, 18:00
by grim_tales
Which ones?
I'd pick up:

Goldfinger
From Russia With Love
You Only Live Twice
Live and Let Die
Licence To Kill

Re: Markgway's Inane Blu Ray Questions Thread

Posted: 19 Aug 2009, 18:58
by gasteropod
I have the first box set, so Dr. No, From Russia with Love, Thunderball, For Your Eyes Only, Live and Let Die, and Die Another Day. That's six then, but DAD obviously isn't meant to be mono anyway.

Re: Markgway's Inane Blu Ray Questions Thread

Posted: 19 Aug 2009, 19:09
by Markgway
From Goldeneye onwards there's no problem since these were all digital sound and I can pick up the UK discs.

But audio purists will need the US releases for the original mono and stereo tracks on pre-90s titles (Dr. No to The Man with the Golden Gun for mono; The Spy Who Loved Me to Licence to Kill for stereo).

I won't be buying all the Bonds, but probably a majority (the weakest period is from the late 60s to the mid 70s).

Re: Markgway's Inane Blu Ray Questions Thread

Posted: 19 Aug 2009, 19:19
by bradavon
My mistake Grim. I thought you said you have, not would like. Like Mark you'll have to own a BD MR Player then or Region A only, which will discount many Optimum RB BDs.
gasteropod wrote:I have 5 Bonds on BD and they just sound Mono/stereo anyway.
Exactly. I agree. Not Mono but definitely Stereo. Except for the Dalton ones onwards obviously. Where they're all some sort of Surround any way. I'm basing this on the DVDs but the remixes will be the same.

Fair enough to those who insist on Mono though.
Markgway wrote:But audio purists will need the US releases for the original mono and stereo tracks on pre-90s titles (Dr. No to The Man with the Golden Gun for mono; The Spy Who Loved Me to Licence to Kill for stereo).
I take your point on Mono but won't the Stereo ones sound pretty damn good in 5.1? Especially the Daltons, where they're Dolby Surround, so made with Surround in mind. As far as I know, no new foley has been added.

I'm only planning to pick up Tomorrow Never Dies myself. I already own Casino Royale. Licence to Kill is very good but tbh it's not one I'd rush to upgrade. The UE DVD is perfectly fine, the same goes for the other Bonds I own on UE and SE DVD. I hope they've fixed the pink on Tomorrow Never Dies!

Bond is clearly lots of fun but none I really consider outstanding. They're all good action/thrillers but not something I'd rush to get on BD. Especially as they're all so similar too. BD also simply costs way too much to consider getting several Bond BDs, like you can DVD.

Re: Markgway's Inane Blu Ray Questions Thread

Posted: 19 Aug 2009, 19:44
by Markgway
bradavon wrote:I take your point on Mono but won't the Stereo ones sound pretty damn good in 5.1? Especially the Daltons, where they're Dolby Surround, so made with Surround in mind. As far as I know, no new foley has been added.
They'll sound good... but according to my experience comparing the R1 DVDs not quite as good. The films are originally mixed by film sound engineers not video engineers who never do as professional a job. Taking something that pre-exists and tampering with it is always risky in my book. No new foley though which makes them much less offensive to my ears than mono remixes.
I hope they've fixed the pink on Tomorrow Never Dies!
The R1 UE was fixed.
Bond is clearly lots of fun but none I really consider outstanding.
I'm prone because they're my kind of movie. Doesn't get much better than watching 007 in action. :thumbs:

Re: Markgway's Inane Blu Ray Questions Thread

Posted: 19 Aug 2009, 19:50
by bradavon
Markgway wrote:No new foley though which makes them much less offensive to my ears than mono remixes.
Do the Bond Mono UE DVDs have added foley then?
The R1 UE was fixed.
Are you sure? Great, thanks.

Re: Markgway's Inane Blu Ray Questions Thread

Posted: 19 Aug 2009, 19:56
by Markgway
bradavon wrote:Do the Bond Mono UE DVDs have added foley then?
Yes.
The R1 UE was fixed.
Are you sure? Great, thanks.
Yes. There's a cap comparison on this forum. See for yourself.

Re: Markgway's Inane Blu Ray Questions Thread

Posted: 19 Aug 2009, 20:49
by grim_tales
Like Mark, I'll pick up some Bonds but not all.
Forgot to say I'll probably get Goldeneye as well on BD :)

Re: Markgway's Inane Blu Ray Questions Thread

Posted: 21 Aug 2009, 22:10
by saltysam
Read somewhere (can't remember where) that the Bond BD's haven't sold very well and there are currently no plans for any more releases at the moment.probably bullshit.

Re: Markgway's Inane Blu Ray Questions Thread

Posted: 21 Aug 2009, 23:12
by Markgway
Hard to imagine Bond not selling well. Even the lesser titles you would think would be bought by enough fans to make a dent. The last batch came out in June - am I right? If there's no more within the next 3 months you might be onto something.

Re: Markgway's Inane Blu Ray Questions Thread

Posted: 22 Aug 2009, 15:58
by romerojpg
Well what do you expect everyone wants Mono :lol:

But yup I would bet its bullshit, becuase they were top of the charts for weeks when released and always back in top charts when in sales on amazon etc..

Still how many is selling not very well :D

Re: Markgway's Inane Blu Ray Questions Thread

Posted: 22 Aug 2009, 20:52
by Markgway
I dunno. But I want fucking Goldeneye and The Living fucking Daylights.

Re: Markgway's Inane Blu Ray Questions Thread

Posted: 22 Aug 2009, 21:35
by grim_tales
I want fucking Goldenye too. As long as its Famke/Isabella and not Sean/Pierce doing the fucking ;)

Re: Markgway's Inane Blu Ray Questions Thread

Posted: 22 Aug 2009, 23:41
by saltysam
grim_tales wrote:I want fucking Goldenye too. As long as its Famke/Isabella and not Sean/Pierce doing the fucking ;)
Fucking hell Grim-do you have to be so crude :| ;)

Re: Markgway's Inane Blu Ray Questions Thread

Posted: 23 Aug 2009, 03:07
by Markgway
That's so typical of Grim, lowering the tone.

Re: Markgway's Inane Blu Ray Questions Thread

Posted: 23 Aug 2009, 08:53
by grim_tales
It was just a joke! :D

Re: Markgway's Inane Blu Ray Questions Thread

Posted: 31 Aug 2009, 13:58
by Markgway
DIE HARD 2 (UK)

Anyone got an opinion on the DTS-master audio for this one?
The Dolby 2.0 from the US release has naturally been dropped.

MAXIMUM RISK (UK)

Rewind claim that the BD is cut as per the DVD and VHS versions. Yet I've read elsewhere that the cuts have been restored and slipped out without BBFC classification. Anyone know?

Re: Markgway's Inane Blu Ray Questions Thread

Posted: 31 Aug 2009, 16:49
by bradavon
The DTS-HD MA on Die Hard is good. It's the sort of film that lends itself really well to a 5.1 remix. I cannot comment about DH2 sorry.