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Posted: 14 Dec 2008, 18:29
by bradavon
The Beyonce and Alexndra duet was so, so, so much better than the Westlife and Boyzone ones.

The cynic in mean could even say it was rigged. Westlife are still pretty good but boy Boyzone are passed it.

Posted: 14 Dec 2008, 18:40
by IronMonkey
bradavon wrote:Westlife are still pretty good
I'm sorry but WHAT?! When were they ever good?! They make me cringe!

Posted: 14 Dec 2008, 20:00
by grim_tales
The Beyonce/Alex duet was AMAZING. Different class.

Posted: 14 Dec 2008, 21:58
by bradavon
IronMonkey wrote:I'm sorry but WHAT?! When were they ever good?! They make me cringe!
They can sing. I never said I was a fan and compared to Boyzone they're fantastic, which was really my point.

Posted: 15 Dec 2008, 13:11
by saltysam

Posted: 15 Dec 2008, 15:33
by grim_tales
I heard about Alex and the sex tape...
She shouldnt pay the bastard, He just wants money.

Posted: 15 Dec 2008, 17:26
by bradavon
Alex was coming across as stuck up on the Xtra factor asking:

1. She have a duet with Girls Aloud
2. She have another duet with Beyonce
3. She support Beyonce on tour
4. Holly call her kid Alex

I'm sure she wasn't being entirely serious but even so.

p.s - What sort of person wanting to make it in the music industry allows themselves to be filmed? A stupid one.

Posted: 15 Dec 2008, 19:11
by grim_tales
I didnt see those parts but I think Beyonce really supported Alex and she (Beyonce) was really Alex's hero. As you say maybe she said it in a jokey way but why not? There arent many established singers who duet with Beyonce let alone amateurs.

Posted: 15 Dec 2008, 22:53
by bradavon
grim_tales wrote:I didnt see those parts but I think Beyonce really supported Alex and she (Beyonce) was really Alex's hero.
And Mariah Carey, yawn!
grim_tales wrote:As you say maybe she said it in a jokey way but why not?
She came across a little stuck up for someone who has just won an award show. They think this is IT when frankly it's only just begun for them.

The X Factor is by no means a ticket to success.

Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 00:34
by grim_tales
Yeah, she said Mariah Carey. But you can have more than one idol :)
I agree with your point though that it doesnt guarantee success by any means (Look at Steve B). I think she was graceful in winning, she kept thanking everybody many times she was just emotional and excited too (which explains the tears I guess). Ruth was also lovely and very polite in defeat when she went.

Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 01:01
by Markgway
grim_tales wrote:She shouldnt pay the bastard, He just wants money.
Another pearl of wisdom brought to you by Grim. :D
She came across a little stuck up for someone who has just won an award show. They think this is IT when frankly it's only just begun for them.
Remember when artists had to struggle for years playing dingy pubs before getting spotted or a demo tape finding its way to an execs desk? Now megastardom is handed out on a silver platter. When will the public see thru this?

Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 10:02
by grim_tales
:D
That does sound stupid when I read it ;) I just meant that guy is an asshole and he doesnt care about her. Alex shouldnt pay him. I'd get the police involved regarding the stalking though.

Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 13:14
by bradavon
Markgway wrote:Remember when artists had to struggle for years playing dingy pubs before getting spotted or a demo tape finding its way to an execs desk? Now megastardom is handed out on a silver platter. When will the public see thru this?
Exactly. To be fair many still do it the old fashioned way.

As to the public seeing through it, they largely do. The majority of these so called stars disappear after the shows are over. I bet Leon Jackson does.

Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 13:29
by grim_tales
I dont think Alex will though and Leona didnt because she was very good (but its not like she was an untrained novice off the street, when she entered she was already pretty much a polished product).

Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 17:24
by Markgway
Isn't that Alex just Leona, Part II?

They all sound THE SAME............ with that faux emotion and whimpering vocal gymnastics.

How many Mariah Carey's can the public take?

Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 18:12
by grim_tales
Alex was probably told to do that stuff at the end of the track. I think Alex has a better lower register, while Leona has a better upper register (considering Alex has a low alto voice she hit some pretty high notes during Hallelujah).

Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 19:40
by bradavon
Keep trying to convince us Grim they sound different, with all this technical babble :D. They essentially have identical types of voices.

Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 20:08
by saltysam
no-one on these shows have ever been as good as Gareth Gates.

Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 20:48
by bradavon
:D

Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 21:14
by grim_tales
I think Alex's voice is more "soul" TBH and Alex sang a few more upbeat songs on XF and danced, but yeah, Alex may release similar music to Leona. I dunno.

Posted: 17 Dec 2008, 03:05
by Markgway
grim_tales wrote:I dunno.
Yes. 8)

Posted: 17 Dec 2008, 14:06
by grim_tales
Well thats not Alex's fault. Depends if Simon sets her up as a competitor for Leona or not. They do have similar voices but they can sing different sorts of music IMO :)
I think Alex was a worthy winner this year :D

Posted: 17 Dec 2008, 16:55
by bradavon
Why do you keep repeating yourself? ;).

Posted: 17 Dec 2008, 16:57
by grim_tales
Just responding to Mark :? ;)