Celebrity Big Brother 2007

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 18 Jan 2007, 19:11

To top it all my bloody aerial fell down today during all the heavy windws so we have no analogue or Freeview.

We still have Sky but seeing as my Dad is staying in tonight I won't be able to watch it until long after CBB is over

. Typical he normally goes over to his girlfriends too.

I doubt aerial guy will be able to come until next week, assuming when he does it's not to windy to go up on the roof.

Markgway wrote:If it is indeed racism - and I've no intention of watching to find out - then surely the other house guests should say something or are they a bunch of cowards?

The rest of the house (i.e - the 3 who're not against her) are unfortunately just that. They've not said a thing to defend Shilpa in the slightest.

grim_tales wrote:I half agree with Shen BTW, the comments made were stupid, prejudiced and hurtful, making fun of her, but yes it could be more cultural ignorance rather than real racism (if you know what I mean).

Agreed it's more a case of a culture divide bread out of ignorance but that doesn't make it right. IMO bullying is no better than racism.

Markgway wrote:Not saying that bullying should be tolerated - sorry if that's how my post came across.

No worries it didn't come across that way.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 18 Jan 2007, 19:21

The really sad thing is the media is making cash from this pathetic incident, the papers are selling more and people are now tuning into the show more. I bet Channel 4 are rubbing their hands together as hell all this is helping it get more viewers.

Looking at Jade in full on ignorant shouty mode makes me smile, as hell she is as thick as pigshit and she really thinks she is above them all

I dont think she deserves the pain thats going to be inflicked on her when she leaves mind you, as she is going to get one hell of a flameing, and possibly people will kick her head in on the streets, but also sadly the dicks that are racists will be loving this stuff.

The BMP will be getting lots of new members and they will use all this as publicity, as thats the kind of inbred muppets they are.

To be honest I am sooo sick of the Religion/Race thing now, the last 5 years have been getting worse by the day, such small things now explode into full blown war. What a world, just imagine how bad its going to be in another 5 years.

BiscLimpkit · Post by **BiscLimpkit** » 18 Jan 2007, 19:22

bradavon wrote: I can't believe none of the men have stepped in to defend Shilpa. CBB seems to have picked a host of strong minded women but not one strong minded man. If Germaine was anymore relaxed he'd melt away and Dirk seems more interested in smoking his cigar.

Not true IMO. Jermaine has been fantastic and offered wise words of wisdom. Dirk has supported her and has a ridiculous crush on her. Ian's also been good with Shilpa.

bradavon wrote: Jade's perfume has also been withdrawn from stores:

"The Perfume Shop chain has also decided to withdraw sales of Jade's perfume from its shelves following the controversy."

p.s - The Carphone Warehouse have suspended sponsorship too.

I also heard on the radio that Dannielle's had a big modelling contract terminated.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 18 Jan 2007, 19:25

I agree with Romero, racism is an important issue but its like Parliament has a debate on it because of BB

Its sad its taken BB to prompt this. BB in itself is not important and there was 10 mins on it on C4 news tonight!

Shen · Post by **Shen** » 18 Jan 2007, 19:46

you know whats funny...all these contracts being cancelled, when they find out, its gonna be blamed on shilpa, not their own loud mouthed, foul attitudes.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 18 Jan 2007, 20:07

BiscLimpkit wrote:Not true IMO. Jermaine has been fantastic and offered wise words of wisdom. Dirk has supported her and has a ridiculous crush on her. Ian's also been good with Shilpa.

Completely agreed but I meant more that not one of them has defended her against the girls.

BiscLimpkit · Post by **BiscLimpkit** » 18 Jan 2007, 22:43

Shilpa v Jade for eviction. Fa's gettin the boot ye reckon?

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 19 Jan 2007, 00:18

Fa???

Dear god: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1197669/

I wonder if I fart on camera I'll appear on IMDB.

Is Jade really mixed race? I can't find naff all about what mixed races on the web. Besides even if she is part arseville it doesn't mean she can't be racist.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 19 Jan 2007, 00:51

BiscLimpkit wrote:Not true IMO. Jermaine has been fantastic and offered wise words of wisdom.

Didn't Jermaine call Jade "white trash"? (She's half black). Surprised no one has mentioned that here?

I would've stuck up for Shilpa --- in exchange for a bit of post-BB nookie!!

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 19 Jan 2007, 00:53

bradavon wrote:Is Jade really mixed race? I can't find naff all about what mixed races on the web. Besides even if she is part arseville it doesn't mean she can't be racist.

I think something has gotten lost in the translation...?

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 19 Jan 2007, 09:59

I heard Jade's dad is Rastifarian.
Secondly Mark you're right, how come Jermaine called Jade and her mum "white trash" and nothing was said?
I would say perhaps its insulting maybe but its not exactly hurtful to a race which has always deemed superiority.

As for the Shilpa comments, well.. still not sure if there was real racism, more a case of female bitchiness, the girls didnt say anything to Jermaine.

Jade called Shilpa "Shilpa Poppadum" and said it wasn't racist. Maybe not, but it is stereotyping, she's created an image of Indians as restaurant owners or whatever.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 19 Jan 2007, 16:43

There are undeniable racial undertones to the bullying but it's more about class and difference than anything else.

BiscLimpkit · Post by **BiscLimpkit** » 19 Jan 2007, 17:42

Aye whoever leaves today will not face a public eviction.... ooooooo.....

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 19 Jan 2007, 21:29

grim_tales wrote:Secondly Mark you're right, how come Jermaine called Jade and her mum "white trash" and nothing was said?

Because it's just one comment. If Jade said similar and that was it the show wouldn't be in this mess.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 19 Jan 2007, 21:31

Crikey what a show. I've never been into CBB before.

Jade clearly no has some idea of what a mess she's in but she's in for one hell of a shock quite how big it is.

Fair play to Jade though I didn't expect her to be as big as she was and to completely apologise like she did. All due respect for that. You can see where she was coming from, Jade was trying to apologise but Shilpa was clearly slightly looking down at her.

At the end of the day it's a clash of personalities which isn't going to help Jade now. For the short time at least she's screwed!

Shen · Post by **Shen** » 19 Jan 2007, 21:34

bradavon wrote: Fair play to Jade though I didn't expect her to be as big as she was and to completely apologise like she did. All due respect for that. You can see where she was coming from, Jade was trying to apologise but Shilpa was clearly slightly looking down at her.!

if she;d really meant it, she'd of apologized before BB got onto her...not afterwards. for me that totally blew her "apology" apart. then others started to apologize, only cuz they know they are in the shit and are backpeddling.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 19 Jan 2007, 21:45

To be honest I do think Danielle is vindictive. At least Jade said it to her face and Danielle's comments were definitely racist.

Jade's were more bullying, with a small amount of truth (even if she went way overboard).

Danielle apologises then slags someone off behind their back.

As per it being to late, maybe but you know what I don't think she thinks that way. This isn't meant in a derogatory manner but she is so simple minded I don't think it would've occurred to her.

And besides people don't always "get things" until someone forces them to realise.

Channel 4 sure took their time to listen to complaints. It is pretty sucky of C4 for deliberately picking people it's obvious who're going to fight. Jade and Shilpa are so far apart in personality.

I bet Jade is regretting going back in.

I'm starting to think with Jade what you see is what you get. Yes she was bang out of order and a bully but it did sound sincere to me, the apology and at the end of the day what more can someone do?

Even if it was too late at least it was sincere.

Shen wrote:Only cuz they know they are in the shit and are backpeddling.

Oh I completely agree about Danielle hers didn't come across as sincere in the slightest.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 20 Jan 2007, 09:24

bradavon wrote:
grim_tales wrote:Secondly Mark you're right, how come Jermaine called Jade and her mum "white trash" and nothing was said?
Because it's just one comment. If Jade said similar and that was it the show wouldn't be in this mess.

OK but its still hurtful and possibly racist.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 20 Jan 2007, 12:44

grim_tales wrote:OK but its still hurtful and possibly racist.

Did he say it to her face? If so then fair point.

But agreed yes it is racist. I doubt anyone would've cared it Jade had said one comment though.

The more I think about it Jade turning around is really odd. She managed to do a 100% U-Turn in the space of a day. Her apologise seemed sincere but for someone who so strongly believed what she did to completely turn 100% around is dodgy to say the least.

Even if she apologised, realised what she had done was wrong but still held her guns to what she thought Shilpa was then fine but she didn't.

Of course it's not over we still have Jo and Danielle to be evicted.

The question is when this is all over will we ever see from Shilpa again!

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 20 Jan 2007, 14:32

Doesn't matter if it's one comment or not. He still used a racist term and no one batted an eyelid. Would Jade have gotten away with mentioning 'niggers'? No. Not that I'm saying Jackson should be investigated. There is a little something called reasonable freedom of speech. Just that obvious double standards are in play.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 20 Jan 2007, 14:35

Markgway wrote:Would Jade have gotten away with mentioning 'niggers'? No.

Not in the slightest but then she wouldn't have got in half as much trouble if that's all she said. Besides people have battered an eye lid. I've heard loads of people bring up this example.

It's not what she said as frankly both are racist comments but the amount she said.

That said I completely agree that a black man can get away with a racist comment much easier than a white man can. Just like women can get away with sexism easier than men can (I've seen this at work). People are scarred to voice their opinion if it's the other way around.

The point here though is like I said Germain's is just one comment, Jade bullied Shilpa non-stop for nearly a week.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 20 Jan 2007, 14:54

bradavon wrote:Not in the slightest but then she wouldn't have got in half as much trouble if that's all she said.

You really think so?

Besides people have battered an eye lid. I've heard loads of people bring up this example.

Not on the news or the splashy headlines. It's all "EVIL JADE: FACE OF HATE".

That said I completely agree that a black man can get away with a racist comment much easier than a white man can. Just like women can get away with sexism easier than men can (I've seen this at work). People are scarred to voice their opinion if it's the other way around.

Exactly and it's wrong. But 'we' accept it.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 20 Jan 2007, 14:57

Markgway wrote:You really think so?

Oh it would be all over the news but not half as bad as it's got.

Markgway wrote:Not on the news or the splashy headlines. It's all "EVIL JADE: FACE OF HATE".

Jo and especially Danielle are in trouble too but Jade was the ringmaster.

Exactly and it's wrong. But 'we' accept it.

The thing is if you try it can backfire.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 20 Jan 2007, 14:58

I only watched CBB for all this exciting stuff. Now Jade is out it's gone back to being dull and boring.

It's climaxed too early

, another week to go. I doubt I'll bother now.

BiscLimpkit · Post by **BiscLimpkit** » 20 Jan 2007, 15:01

Jade's appology was long overdue and was a last act of desperation in order to avoid public humiliation.

After realising what she had done (thanks to a little intervention from Big Brother), she did everything she could to make herself look good... even if that meant making up with Shilpa.

I still think she's a vile, despicable woman but for the pulic and press to bully her further is pointless. Like Jermaine said, it would be stooping to her level.

Jade got off lightly in the interview. It was such a farse. One thing, it wasn't even a live eviction! (Did anyone notice the editing blip at the end?). Also Jade's responses were totally scripted. As she shares the same manager with Davina, I think she got more than enough slack. Even the "boos" from the crowd sounded feeble and fake.

In typical Danielle fashion, she copies Jade with a half-assed appology. Another disgusting creature.