Leon: Various Cuts!

[Markgway]

And men aren't? Many men put too much emphasise on looks.

True, but looks are a part of the person at least, money and material goods are alien. What men like belongs to the individual.

That's OTT, not all women are like that.

Not ALL women, but A LOT. If they were honest about it, and had the chance to dump their working class boyfriends for a dickhead with money...

I don't think women are materialist but they do value a man being the provider, way more than a man ever does. Being rich often brings some form of power and independence.

Women are like monkeys... they fall off one branch and cling to another. Money and security outweighs any personal attribute. A man couldn't care less if a woman he's attracted to has money or power - or even a job.

[bradavon]

True, but looks are a part of the person at least, money and material goods are alien. What men like belongs to the individual.

And? Both are as flimsy as each other, as a reason alone to go out with someone.

Not ALL women, but A LOT. If they were honest about it, and had the chance to dump their working class boyfriends for a dickhead with money...

You could say the same about many men and only going out with a woman because she's good looking.

Women are like monkeys... they fall off one branch and cling to another. Money and security outweighs any personal attribute.

I'd say very few women are quite that shallow. You make out that most women would dump their boyfriend "just like that". Dude most people aren't that shallow, of either sex.

A man couldn't care less if a woman he's attracted to has money or power - or even a job.

Well no but he would care less if she has big boobs and is attractive. That's just as shallow. It's just a different outlook and you clearly don't consider picking a girlfriend purely on looks to be as shallow, I'd say it certainly is.

Besides you're missing the point, it's not the money or power as such but the fact men are there to look after women. That's a mentality that is A: Human nature and B: Has been ingrained into people for thousands of years. Money and power brings security, which is a turn on for almost all women.

I remember Yi-Long had the same short sided views about women too.

[Markgway]

And? Both are as flimsy as each other, as a reason alone to go out with someone.

So you don't see the difference between going out with someone for their looks and for their money?

You could say the same about many men and only going out with a woman because she's good looking.

Maybe... but it's different. As I've already explained; at least looks belong to the person and aren't material goods.

I'd say very few women are quite that shallow. You make out that most women would dump their boyfriend "just like that". Dude most people aren't that shallow, of either sex.

You're being naive. If a woman could get a richer bloke and a more secure lifestyle most would take it.

Well no but he would care less if she has big boobs and is attractive. That's just as shallow.

Hardly as shallow. Although not sure I'd agree about big boobs. Facial appearence, yes, but big jugs are an acquired taste (ahem).

It's just a different outlook and you clearly don't consider picking a girlfriend purely on looks to be as shallow, I'd say it certainly is.

Never said it wasn't shallow to pick purely on looks. I said it's LESS shallow - but still shallow. Looks alone shouldn't be the basis of a relationship and I wouldn't stay in a relationship myself with a girl if she was only about the looks.

Besides you're missing the point, it's not the money or power as such but the fact men are there to look after women. That's a mentality that is A: Human nature and B: Has been ingrained into people for thousands of years.

Lol, isn't that sexist?

Money and power brings security, which is a turn on for almost all women.

That's what I'm saying!!

[bradavon]

So you don't see the difference between going out with someone for their looks and for their money?

Nope, not really. Both are as shallow as each other.

Maybe... but it's different. As I've already explained; at least looks belong to the person and aren't material goods.

That's an incredibely flimsy point of view. A man's independence and strength (I don't mean physical) is as part of a man as a women's looks are. It's those that women find attractive, money is just the catalyst.

You're being naive. If a woman could get a richer bloke and a more secure lifestyle most would take it.

No you're being ignorant. I don't disagree for a second some women would but I don't believe most women would dump their long term partner they're madly in love with over a pillock with money.

Never said it wasn't shallow to pick purely on looks. I said it's LESS shallow

And I disagree . Men can be incredibly shallow.

Lol, isn't that sexist?

Probably but lets face it men and women are naturally sexist to an extent. Women can get away with some seriously sexist comments, men cannot.

That's what I'm saying!!

I know and I'm agreeing with you , but I disagree most women are like it.

[Shingster]

Wanting a relationship with someone who can look after you financially and give you a secure, comfortable lifestyle is far, far less shallow that wanting to fuck someone because they look good, or because they've got a nice rack!

[Markgway]

I think the polar opposite of Shingster and Brad - so sue me.

[bradavon]

Relax, Yi-Long is on your safe .

Shingster has a point.

[Markgway]

Shingster has a point.

Yes, and it's a rubbish one. 8)