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Posted: 06 Feb 2006, 21:50
by romerojpg
Because of the twist, if it had no twist it would have been forgotton instantly

like most twist films.
Posted: 06 Feb 2006, 23:58
by bradavon
I guess, it wasn't that good a twist (He's the one to be burnt right?).
It was enjoyable but not a keeper really.
Posted: 07 Feb 2006, 01:43
by Markgway
The wonderful irony of the film is...
Copper Eddie is sacrificed BECAUSE he's a puritan; turning the whole religious angle on its head. If he'd just beasted Britt Ekland that night she was tempting him (and boy was I tempted...) he would've lived... 
Posted: 07 Feb 2006, 08:51
by grim_tales
Yes

Posted: 07 Feb 2006, 15:36
by bradavon
I don't see how that's wonderful, sorry.
He doesn't believe so gets sacrificed. That's what you're saying I think? Sorry I'm equally confused why sleeping with Brit Ekland would have made him survive?
Because it would show to them that he's as evil as they are?
I enjoyed it but wouldn't call it a classic. It looked dated a bit too.
Posted: 07 Feb 2006, 18:52
by grim_tales
Brad no,
The islanders say at the end they are looking for "a man who would come here as a Virgin" and "man who would come here as a fool" and its by resisting Britt he fits that criteria. Howie IS a fool as he makes the mistake of assuming what isn't "good" in his eyes, must therefore be "evil".
IMO its not only the twist that maketh the film, it is a classic IMO.
Posted: 07 Feb 2006, 19:09
by romerojpg
Twist is about 50% of Twist films. Without that Tiwst the film would have just never even been heard of like so many others.
Posted: 07 Feb 2006, 20:06
by grim_tales
Nonsense. Its' not just about that. Films like Unbreakable would have worked well without their famous twists. I watched Unbreakable the other day and still enjoyed it a lot.
It (Wicker Man) looks dated to me too but to be fair it was made more than 30 years ago

Posted: 07 Feb 2006, 20:16
by romerojpg
Unbreakable isnt really a twist film for me, its just a superb film with a ending that is also superb

other lesser films do really put everything into the endings.
Sixth Sense for instance, good film, but no way in hell does it deserve all that sucess thats for sure. I can think of many great films with twists that are very good film still, but many which just go all out for a silly ending and hope it gets people in the cinema.
Posted: 07 Feb 2006, 20:29
by grim_tales
I agree BTW - I think Unbreakable had far more rewatch value than Sixth Sense

I'd better stop I'm going OT

Posted: 07 Feb 2006, 20:31
by romerojpg
Hey Unbreakable is worth going off topic for
Heres a bargain for ya then
CSI: Crime Scene Investigation Season 1 Full set Region 2 £21.97
at amazon.co.uk

I bought it.
Posted: 07 Feb 2006, 21:13
by bradavon
The islands are fools if they think he's still a virgin at age 50 odd!
. Thanks though. I missed the first 20 minutes but I doubt that would've swayed the film greatly for me. £2.97 is oddly tempting.
romerojpg wrote:Twist is about 50% of Twist films. Without that Tiwst the film would have just never even been heard of like so many others.
True but if you take the twist out of films with a twist they wouldn't be the same film so your analogy makes no sense.
Posted: 11 Feb 2006, 18:43
by grim_tales
They are not fools as they know he is a devout Christian and not married. In tune with his belief, he is still a virgin, wierd as it may seem nowadays
Anyway,
Simpsons Season 6 - $24.97 @ Amazon.com:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009N ... ance&n=130

Posted: 11 Feb 2006, 21:23
by bradavon
grim_tales wrote:They are not fools as they know he is a devout Christian and not married. In tune with his belief, he is still a virgin, wierd as it may seem nowadays

That's so far fetched if the film was lying the crux of it's story on this. I didn't even know that, the film's suddenly got weaker IMO.
Okay it's still a decent film but not a classic.
Posted: 11 Feb 2006, 22:03
by Markgway
Edward was supposed to be in his late 30's (I would guess... not nearing his pension!) lol
Since we're obviously passed the spoiler stage ---
I think you misunderstood the whole concept Brad, try watching it again from the beginning.
Sleeping with Britt wouldn't have been an evil act; it was a lifeline for him. An act of "love" would have saved him from his horrible fate. The islanders needed a virgin; they used Britt to test Edward. If he had succumbed to NATURAL temptation, they couldn't have sacrificed him for their God; instead he has ultimately (and unknowingly) sacrificed himself for his. A life unlived and unloved is a life wasted.... The film is basically saying how stupid people are who live life and death according to religion, allowing it to control their feelings, thoughts and principles. Oh, and sex is good.

Posted: 11 Feb 2006, 22:03
by grim_tales
OK fair enough. Which version did you see though? The short version (84 mins) is crap, the DC is the only version you need to see.
Posted: 11 Feb 2006, 22:52
by bradavon
I don't know tbh it was the showing ITV4 (could be ITV3) showed a while back. I'm sure it was longer than 84 minutes so it must've been the DC.
Anyway Mark you've convinced me to give it another short. Amazon here I come or I would but it's now back up to £14.99, bugger!
Still £3.99 from CD WOW will do nicely

(it's only a £1.02 loss).
Posted: 16 Feb 2006, 20:49
by bradavon
Brotherhood for £5.95 -
http://www.filmnight.com/groupMoreInfo. ... G&R36=3XVY
Film Night.com often have vouchers but all the ones I can find are expired still £5.95 is a decent price.
Posted: 06 Mar 2006, 13:22
by bradavon
Shaolin Soccer - Korean Ultimate 3 Disc Edition £9.99 -
http://www.axelmusic.com/productDetails/8809113255251
The UK R2 is effectively the same but on 1 disc though and can be bought for £5.99:
http://www.cd-wow.com/detail_results_2. ... at=region2
DTS being the reason to get the Korean DVD but in honesty there was no real reason put it on 3 discs AFAIK. The International cut is very short and the UK DVD has English subtitled extras too.
EDIT: It looks like the UK R2 (all on one disc) is the one to go for:
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDCompar ... occer_.htm
Posted: 07 Mar 2006, 00:01
by Yi-Long
Memento 3-disc for only 7.99 @ Play.com
For those who liked the movie it might be worth picking up?
Posted: 07 Mar 2006, 13:35
by bradavon
Where?

. I presume you mean CD WOW.
FYI I posted that CD WOW link above here so it connetcs with the other link.
Posted: 07 Mar 2006, 13:53
by Yi-Long
Ow shit... Memento is at play.com for 7.99
[qupte]FYI I posted that CD WOW link above here so it connetcs with the other link.[/quote]
FMI? What cd-wow link? Are you talking to me?
Posted: 07 Mar 2006, 14:07
by bradavon
No the Shaolin Soccer link above. I've fixed your post.
Posted: 07 Mar 2006, 16:43
by Yi-Long
Aw ic ic ... cool

Posted: 09 Mar 2006, 15:08
by saltysam
hmv have some decent titles including 2-disc sets at £5.99 delivered
http://www.hmv.co.uk/hmvweb/specialOffe ... ing_banner