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Eraser (Schwarzanegger) - best version?
Posted: 20 Dec 2005, 13:09
by grim_tales
Whats' the best version of this?

I've read the UK DVD is cut by about 3 minutes (!) so thats best avoided.

Is there an uncut R2 or R1?

Posted: 20 Dec 2005, 13:18
by bradavon
DVD Compare is your friend.
They're all the same (Just a trailer, anamorphic + DD5.1) except the UK R2 which is cut so avoid that one:
http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=652
Roughly £5.32 R1 -
http://www.dvdpacific.com/item.asp?ID=3128
Roughly £6.09 R4 -
http://atlanticdvd.com.au/index_stuffer ... fm?id=1111
They're the cheapest I can find. Personally I'd get the R4 for PAL but you maybe able to get some other bargains from DVD Pacific so go R1.
Posted: 20 Dec 2005, 13:20
by IronMonkey
R1, no contest.

Posted: 20 Dec 2005, 13:23
by bradavon
Why?
Posted: 20 Dec 2005, 13:24
by grim_tales
I'll go R1 as I can probably find other bargains at Pacific

IM prefers NTSC to PAL.. I think

Posted: 20 Dec 2005, 13:27
by bradavon
grim_tales wrote:IM prefers NTSC to PAL.. I think

Why? You don't like PAL Speedup?
Posted: 20 Dec 2005, 14:10
by slasher13
You don't like PAL Speedup?
TBH i don't understand what the speedup is all about. I can't hear any different between actor voice, as some people have said.
Posted: 20 Dec 2005, 14:16
by tom2681
Slasher13 wrote:TBH i don't understand what the speedup is all about.
Explanation:
Film is shot at 24 fps.
PAL is displayed at 25 fps.
To display a movie in PAL format, you have two choices:
-Speed up the video by 4%.
-Do a crappy "Tartan-like" NTSC-PAL conversion.
PAL speed-up is noticeable because the voices are high-pitched.
TV shows Friends, Stargate and Buffy suffer from this problem.
Fortunately, big studios tend to use a pitch correction system that hides the speed-up's side effects.
Posted: 20 Dec 2005, 14:52
by romerojpg
Yes and you missed out all the problems that occur with NTSC which people hate.
Posted: 20 Dec 2005, 15:20
by grim_tales
What are they?
I don't mind whether I get the R1 or R4 TBH if all it comes down to is NTSC v PAL.

Posted: 20 Dec 2005, 16:43
by saltysam
region 4 will come in an amaray region 1 if it's old stock will come in a snapper

Posted: 20 Dec 2005, 16:49
by grim_tales
Does R1 have new stock in an amaray?
R4 will have those hideous HUGE rating logos on them, no thanks

Posted: 20 Dec 2005, 17:13
by saltysam
i'd sooner have a ratings logo than a shitty snapper any day.the ratings logo on the r4 is no worse than a bbfc 18 logo imo
http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/275
Posted: 20 Dec 2005, 19:17
by grim_tales
The BBFC logos are far more discrete than either the old or new R4 logos IMO

Posted: 20 Dec 2005, 21:23
by bradavon
Grim NTSC is a lower resolution. I've noticed it but it's mostly noticeable on poorly made NTSC DVDs.
slasher13 wrote:You don't like PAL Speedup?
TBH i don't understand what the speedup is all about. I can't hear any different between actor voice, as some people have said.
Me neither BUT I have noticed the increased PAL resolution, definitely.
That said if the NTSC DVD is as good and cheaper I'll get that one.
grim_tales wrote:I don't mind whether I get the R1 or R4 TBH if all it comes down to is NTSC v PAL.

Yes it does oh and:
* Snapper vs. keep case - It's an old title so on R1 maybe snapper. I received 'Demolition Man' (top film, virtually no one likes) the other day from DVD Pacific and was surprised to see it in a snapper. Both are WB titles.
* OFLC Certificates - Again it's old so the new crappy R4 certificate may not be on it.
That said I'd prefer the new logo to a snapper!
p.s - It's cheaper at Atlantic DVD I posted above, who I can recommend (I got 2046: LE from them).
Posted: 21 Dec 2005, 15:02
by gasteropod
I've compared a film in PAL and NTSC, and it's very noticeable if you're watching them side by side. The PAL just sounds silly in comparison, and takes no time in getting out of synch with the NTSC version. But I do prefer a PAL picture, for the added resolution.
Posted: 21 Dec 2005, 15:42
by romerojpg
We are going to go thru all this crap again with tye new HD dvds

which is best and why, at the moment its all bull and its a joke they dont make them all exactly the same!
Posted: 21 Dec 2005, 16:32
by bradavon
The PAL/NTSC issue will never change, it was set in stone along time ago but yes I agree there is still time for one HD format (which I doubt will happen).
Posted: 21 Dec 2005, 19:09
by saltysam
i have the region 1 eraser and it's a snapper :x great movie though,has mucho rewatch value imo.
Posted: 21 Dec 2005, 20:10
by bradavon
How long ago did you buy it?
Posted: 21 Dec 2005, 20:48
by saltysam
bradavon wrote:How long ago did you buy it?
i got it on release brad
Posted: 21 Dec 2005, 21:44
by romerojpg
I saw it in the cinema

Uncut and all that.
Posted: 21 Dec 2005, 22:47
by Markgway
I first saw ERASER at the cinema (was a few weeks under '18') but it was cut; then I saw the NTSC LD (well, a copy) and that was uncut, then the butchered '15' VHS, which I didn't know was butchered until I saw it, then later they showed the UK cinema version on SKY, then finally the R1 DVD, uncut and 16:9. Luvverly. Mine has a snapper case - but I don't really care.

Posted: 22 Dec 2005, 01:46
by romerojpg
The UK cinema cut was an UNCUT 18, so not sure which version you saw Mark?
it was only cut when it came to Video as I noticed quick as I bought the piece of crap!
Posted: 22 Dec 2005, 02:01
by Markgway
romerojpg wrote:The UK cinema cut was an UNCUT 18, so not sure which version you saw Mark?
it was only cut when it came to Video as I noticed quick as I bought the piece of crap!
No, the '18' cinema print was cut by 27s.
Five cuts were made for strong violence and threat.
The '15' video version by 3m, 22s.