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Zimbabwe elections
Posted: 01 Apr 2008, 18:10
by grim_tales
Could Mugabe be chucked out?
I've been reading (just now) on the BBC that its claimed "a deal" is close to being struck for him to step down.
The Opposition Party (not sure of the name) claims it has easily won against Mugabe but official figures show that that party and the ruling one (Mugabe) are about equal in the parliamentary vote

Posted: 01 Apr 2008, 18:37
by saltysam
Rigged (the vote)
Posted: 01 Apr 2008, 18:42
by bradavon
"The Movement for Democratic Change" is the name of the party ran by Morgan Tsvangirai who is likely to become president if Mugabe is chucked out.
I forget the name of the third party. As to Mugabe being chucked out, I seriously doubt he'll actually go. The News said he lost a referendum a few years back meaning she should've left but managed to stay in power.
I also read the Army and Police won't stand for anyone else in power. So if Mugabe is out they'll revolt. It's a mess.
I see on the news inflation is 100,000% percent meaning people have to literally queue daily to get the few dollars they can because it's all the bank can give them and any more would be worthless almost as soon as they've got it out.
It's something silly like 70,000 Zimbabwean dollars (I forget it's exact name) to the US Dollar.
saltysam wrote:Rigged (the vote)
Yep. He rigged the last vote and will do it again.
Posted: 01 Apr 2008, 18:44
by Yi-Long
Mugabe should have been shot in the face many many years ago...
Posted: 01 Apr 2008, 18:51
by bradavon
I hear the trouble is the army and police support him and the average person who dislikes him literally has no energy left after they've spent all day at the bank and then queue for food they have nothing left to protest.
I do think we'll be hearing about fights breaking out in 3-4 days when however wins is confirmed has won. There's no way the other side will stand for it.
Posted: 01 Apr 2008, 19:09
by grim_tales
Agreed its probably rigged. When I heard about dead people on the electoral register "voting" for Mugabe I thought of that Simpsons episode where Sideshow Bob runs for Mayor

Posted: 01 Apr 2008, 19:23
by bradavon
Is there any subject "you" cannot find a Simpson's episode from?

Posted: 01 Apr 2008, 19:30
by grim_tales
Posted: 01 Apr 2008, 23:13
by Markgway
Yi-Long wrote:Mugabe should have been shot in the face many many years ago...
For once I agree...
Posted: 02 Apr 2008, 00:33
by EvaUnit02
bradavon wrote:Is there any subject "you" cannot find a Simpson's episode from?

To name a couple:-
Eating aborted foetuses.
Incest.
Posted: 02 Apr 2008, 00:48
by Markgway
EvaUnit02 wrote:To name a couple:-
Eating aborted foetuses.
Incest.
What about the epsiode where Homer touches Bart inaproproately and Marge eats her own abortion to maker look younger?
Posted: 02 Apr 2008, 01:28
by EvaUnit02
Shit, I completely forget about those. I think that Grim's favourite episode might be the one where Bart and Lisa take playing doctor too far.
Posted: 02 Apr 2008, 01:43
by Yi-Long
I liked the episode where Homer and his dad end up in jail, and Homer makes gramps his bitch and has him toss his salad....
Posted: 02 Apr 2008, 09:23
by grim_tales

Brad is probably right though, whoever wins, fighting may still happen.
Posted: 02 Apr 2008, 11:50
by EvaUnit02
grim_tales wrote:
Brad is probably right though, whoever wins, fighting may still happen.
Fighting in Africa?! Such a preposterous notion! Conflict in Africa is about is as unlikely as George W. Bush not finally bringing an end to the Israel-Palestine grievances, before the end of his final term.
Posted: 02 Apr 2008, 12:18
by bradavon
That had me in fits when I heard that on the news. At most he'll achieve something minute and will of course get his face in the papers doing so.
Posted: 09 Apr 2008, 14:23
by bradavon
I just heard on the News a leaked document has been given to the Journalists that details the Zimbabwean army have been given orders to ransack people's homes who voted against Mugabe, and throw them out of their homes.
They know which areas to target as they have the electoral roll. The chance of the MDC getting in a next to nil.
Posted: 09 Apr 2008, 15:07
by grim_tales
Disgusting

Posted: 09 Apr 2008, 23:23
by Markgway
The racist bastards already went on a spree agressively repossessing white farmers' land.
Posted: 09 Apr 2008, 23:33
by bradavon
Yep.
I suspect technically the land does belong to the black people but you cannot blame the existing white land owners for events that happened a long time ago. Like you say Mark that's being racist against the white person.
Mugabe loves also playing on the ignorance of many Zimbabweans into thinking the British will re-invade Zimbabwe and take over again. Like that would ever happen now

. It's what partly is keeping him in power, so many Zimbabweans are so against being colonised again they'll believe anyone who says it will happen and will stop it, even if Mugabe has no evidence to back up his claims.
Posted: 09 Apr 2008, 23:35
by Markgway
There are white Zimbaweans too born and bred.
The blacks don't have divine right to everything in the country.
Posted: 10 Apr 2008, 00:32
by bradavon
I was agreeing with you

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I was just also commenting the land originally was taken from the black people by force BUT those black people are all dead, so there's a hole in that theory.
Posted: 03 May 2008, 12:14
by grim_tales
Its been conformed that the MDC has beaten Mugabe's Zanu-PF party in the elections - but it didnt have enough votes (50%) so there has to be a second round.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7381668.stm
MDC say they have been cheated out of thousands of votes though.
Posted: 03 May 2008, 18:12
by bradavon
I did hear the two opposing parties (one being the MDC) were going to run together which would mean Mugabe is a minority.
I suspect what will happen is:
1. A second round will happen.
2. Mugabe's thugs will go out and make sure all of the MDC supporters are so badly battered they can either not vote or are dead
3. Mugabe will be sworn in with an illegal technical victory
Posted: 22 Jun 2008, 10:46
by grim_tales
The MDC leader said he was considering pulling out of the 2nd round of polls next week, or something

Lots of reports on the news of Mugabe's thugs beating up/killing MDC supporters

Yet Mugabe blames MDC for the violence?!
Having said that, even one of Mugabe's closest allies (President of Angola?) has called on him to stop the violence.