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The John Woo World Cup
Posted: 29 Dec 2011, 13:33
by Markgway
Winner... THE KILLER
Re: The John Woo World Cup
Posted: 29 Dec 2011, 13:35
by Markgway
1. The Dragon Tamers vs The Young Dragons
2. The Hand of Death vs Last Hurrah for Chivalry
3. Heroes Shed No Tears vs A Better Tomorrow
4. A Better Tomorrow II vs The Killer
5. Bullet in the Head vs Once a Thief
6. Hard Boiled vs Hard Target
7. Broken Arrow vs Face/Off
8. Mission: Impossible II vs Red Cliff
Re: The John Woo World Cup
Posted: 29 Dec 2011, 13:37
by saltysam
1. The Dragon Tamers vs The Young Dragons
2. The Hand of Death vs Last Hurrah for Chivalry
3. Heroes Shed No Tears vs A Better Tomorrow
4. A Better Tomorrow II vs The Killer
5. Bullet in the Head vs Once a Thief
6. Hard Boiled vs Hard Target
7. Broken Arrow vs Face/Off
8. Mission: Impossible II vs Red Cliff
Re: The John Woo World Cup
Posted: 29 Dec 2011, 13:56
by HungFist
2. The Hand of Death vs Last Hurrah for Chivalry
3. Heroes Shed No Tears vs A Better Tomorrow
4. A Better Tomorrow II vs The Killer
5. Bullet in the Head vs Once a Thief
6. Hard Boiled vs Hard Target
7. Broken Arrow vs Face/Off
8. Mission: Impossible II vs Red Cliff
Re: The John Woo World Cup
Posted: 29 Dec 2011, 14:20
by bradavon
3. Heroes Shed No Tears (0) vs A Better Tomorrow (3)
4. A Better Tomorrow II (1) vs The Killer (2) - Easy choice. I'm not a fan of ABT or ABT2.
6. Hard Boiled (3) vs Hard Target (0) - Easy choice too.
7. Broken Arrow (1) vs Face/Off (2) - Again an easy choice.
8. Mission: Impossible II (0) vs Red Cliff (3) - But only because I've not got around to watching my BD yet, feel free to discount this one. I suspect I'll prefer Red Cliff when I've seen it.
Re: The John Woo World Cup
Posted: 29 Dec 2011, 14:38
by Keung
1. The Dragon Tamers vs The Young Dragons
2. The Hand of Death vs Last Hurrah for Chivalry
3. Heroes Shed No Tears vs A Better Tomorrow
4. A Better Tomorrow II vs The Killer
5. Bullet in the Head vs Once a Thief
6. Hard Boiled vs Hard Target
7. Broken Arrow vs Face/Off
8. Mission: Impossible II vs Red Cliff
Re: The John Woo World Cup
Posted: 29 Dec 2011, 15:35
by gasteropod
7. Broken Arrow vs Face/Off
Re: The John Woo World Cup
Posted: 29 Dec 2011, 16:14
by thelostdragon
1. The Dragon Tamers vs The Young Dragons
2. The Hand of Death vs Last Hurrah for Chivalry
3. Heroes Shed No Tears vs A Better Tomorrow
4. A Better Tomorrow II vs The Killer
5. Bullet in the Head vs Once a Thief
6. Hard Boiled vs Hard Target
7. Broken Arrow vs Face/Off
8. Mission: Impossible II vs Red Cliff
Re: The John Woo World Cup
Posted: 29 Dec 2011, 16:14
by degeneration
3. Heroes Shed No Tears vs A Better Tomorrow
4. A Better Tomorrow II vs The Killer
5. Bullet in the Head vs Once a Thief
6. Hard Boiled vs Hard Target
7. Broken Arrow vs Face/Off
Re: The John Woo World Cup
Posted: 29 Dec 2011, 16:17
by Markgway
thelostdragon wrote:6. Hard Boiled vs Hard Target
There can be only one........

Re: The John Woo World Cup
Posted: 29 Dec 2011, 17:15
by grim_tales
Can't vote on the first option (Dragon Tamers), havent seen either film.
2. The Hand of Death vs Last Hurrah for Chivalry
3. Heroes Shed No Tears vs A Better Tomorrow - Heroes Shed No Tears was very good but ABT beats it.
4. A Better Tomorrow II vs The Killer - No contest.
5. Bullet in the Head vs Once a Thief - lame comedy in Once a Thief spoilt it. Bullet in The Head = brutal, harrowing classic.
6. Hard Boiled vs Hard Target - HT is good for a US actioner but Hard Boiled beats it hands down.
7. Broken Arrow vs Face/Off
8. Mission: Impossible II vs Red Cliff
Re: The John Woo World Cup
Posted: 29 Dec 2011, 18:46
by IronMonkey
1. The Dragon Tamers vs The Young Dragons
2. The Hand of Death vs Last Hurrah for Chivalry
3. Heroes Shed No Tears vs A Better Tomorrow
4. A Better Tomorrow II vs The Killer
5. Bullet in the Head vs Once a Thief
6. Hard Boiled vs Hard Target
7. Broken Arrow vs Face/Off
8. Mission: Impossible II vs Red Cliff
Re: The John Woo World Cup
Posted: 29 Dec 2011, 20:05
by luckystars
2. The Hand of Death vs Last Hurrah for Chivalry
4. A Better Tomorrow II vs The Killer
5. Bullet in the Head vs Once a Thief
6. Hard Boiled vs Hard Target
8. Mission: Impossible II vs Red Cliff
Re: The John Woo World Cup
Posted: 29 Dec 2011, 20:11
by saltysam
thank you luckystars,thought i was going to be the only one who voted for ABT2 ahead of The Killer

Re: The John Woo World Cup
Posted: 29 Dec 2011, 20:50
by luckystars
ABT2 is totally underrated, The Killer is...

Re: The John Woo World Cup
Posted: 29 Dec 2011, 21:55
by bradavon
ABT2 is better than ABT but neither are all that good. Take the action away and you've got nothing.
Re: The John Woo World Cup
Posted: 29 Dec 2011, 22:11
by HungFist
The Killer is the best Hong Kong movie ever made.
A Better Tomorrow is the second best Hong Kong movie ever made.
A Better Tomorrow II is ok. Has some great scenes.
Kinda sad that Heroes Shed No Tears was against ABT. Tears is an excellent film.
Re: The John Woo World Cup
Posted: 29 Dec 2011, 23:20
by degeneration
bradavon wrote:ABT2 is better than ABT but neither are all that good. Take the action away and you've got nothing.
Likewise with Hard Boiled. Take the action away, and it is pretty much forgettable. But the action IS there, and it IS awesome.
Re: The John Woo World Cup
Posted: 30 Dec 2011, 01:15
by Yi-Long
The Killer wouldn't even make it into my top 100 movies TBH.
My favourite Woo movie is and probably always will be Hard Boiled. It's not perfect, but as an action-flick, it comes pretty goddamn close.
Not gonna bother with the whole brackets thing, cause the system is flawed in a way that good movies are cast against other good movies thus dropping one of them early on, while some OK movies are cast against other OK movies and survive.
Re: The John Woo World Cup
Posted: 30 Dec 2011, 10:49
by grim_tales
HungFist wrote:The Killer is the best Hong Kong movie ever made.
A Better Tomorrow is the second best Hong Kong movie ever made.
A Better Tomorrow II is ok. Has some great scenes.
Kinda sad that Heroes Shed No Tears was against ABT. Tears is an excellent film.
Agree.

Tears was a very good film.
Re: The John Woo World Cup
Posted: 30 Dec 2011, 12:13
by bradavon
degeneration wrote:Likewise with Hard Boiled. Take the action away, and it is pretty much forgettable. But the action IS there, and it IS awesome.
I guess but the story holds up much better. I found ABT annoying.
Yi-Long wrote:Not gonna bother with the whole brackets thing, cause the system is flawed in a way that good movies are cast against other good movies thus dropping one of them early on, while some OK movies are cast against other OK movies and survive.
Such a Yi comment

. How is it remotely possible to fix that? Everyone's got different tastes.
Re: The John Woo World Cup
Posted: 30 Dec 2011, 13:56
by Markgway
degeneration wrote:Likewise with Hard Boiled. Take the action away, and it is pretty much forgettable. But the action IS there, and it IS awesome.
98.6% of Hard-Boiled
is action.

Re: The John Woo World Cup
Posted: 30 Dec 2011, 14:03
by Markgway
Round One Results:
1. The Dragon Tamers (5) vs The Young Dragons (0)
2. The Hand of Death (4) vs Last Hurrah for Chivalry (*4)
*Winner in Extra-time
3. Heroes Shed No Tears (0) vs A Better Tomorrow (9)
4. A Better Tomorrow II (2) vs The Killer (8)
5. Bullet in the Head (9) vs Once a Thief (0)
6. Hard Boiled (8) vs Hard Target (0)
7. Broken Arrow (2) vs Face/Off (8)
8. Mission: Impossible II (4) vs Red Cliff (6)
Re: The John Woo World Cup
Posted: 30 Dec 2011, 14:07
by Markgway
Quarter Finals now in play......
1. The Dragon Tamers vs Last Hurrah for Chivalry
2. A Better Tomorrow vs The Killer
3. Bullet in the Head vs Hard Boiled
4. Face/Off vs Red Cliff
Re: The John Woo World Cup
Posted: 30 Dec 2011, 14:25
by grim_tales
1 The Dragon Tamers vs Last Hurrah for Chivalry
2. A Better Tomorrow vs The Killer - Both are excellent
3. Bullet in the Head vs Hard Boiled - Ditto
4. Face/Off vs Red Cliff