IRISH RIOT SCUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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IRISH RIOT SCUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well seeing the images on TV just shows you how sad and completely ignorant the Irsh scum are, I hope and prey they all die and all their ignorant famlies too! (only the scum mind you)
NORMAL people do not do this shit, only scum and their aint worse scum than Irish fools fighting for no reason at all. Its soo childish over what they fight over and I wish the army were put into use last night and had the right to shoot them all dead. They were shooting at the police, army, ambulances and normal people, and they deserve to be shot in the face!
When 5 year olds are throwing bricks at the army, you know these aint normal people at all and should have been killed at birth.
NORMAL people do not do this shit, only scum and their aint worse scum than Irish fools fighting for no reason at all. Its soo childish over what they fight over and I wish the army were put into use last night and had the right to shoot them all dead. They were shooting at the police, army, ambulances and normal people, and they deserve to be shot in the face!
When 5 year olds are throwing bricks at the army, you know these aint normal people at all and should have been killed at birth.
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Re: IRISH RIOT SCUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And that would change anything? I wouldn't see a difference between "the bad guys" and you who would kill a kid at birth.romerojpg wrote:...I hope and prey they all die and all their ignorant famlies too! (only the scum mind you)...
...and they deserve to be shot in the face...
When 5 year olds are throwing bricks at the army, you know these aint normal people at all and should have been killed at birth.
I have to admit that I am not knowledgable enough on the topic of this conflict, but I can tell that one of the worst thing to do is to kill a child at birth. You sicken me, mate!
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that would be about 90% of the worlds population wiped out at birth then?? sounds good to me
The orange march's are one of those traditions that have been given great importance within the Loyalist culture. The general idea was/is to march past your enemies in a show of strength and to prove that they have no fear. the tradition is a few hundred years old and is considered almost a religeous right by the orange order members.
Now the marches had been illegal for quite a while (up until recently) because the British army found it hard enough to keep calm without having to manage a march which is primarily designed to piss off the other side. With the move towards peace the rules were relaxed, the parades commission was set up to try and allow the marches to go ahead again without all the trouble that had previously been associated with them.
Unfortunately such an idea is flawed when it comes to the Orange Order because as previously mentiond they specifically believe it is their right and duty to declare their superiority and piss off their enemies, hence to pay attention to the compromises that were being suggested would defeat the objective for them. At this point I guess it would be good to point out that this is from the perspective of someone not in the Orange Order, their version is that they are not inciting anything, they are just doing that which it is their right to do.
So onto the recent riots... It was caused because the Orange order planned the march to go through an opposition area, the police decided this would only cause trouble so they made them change the route by 100yards or so. In response the Orange Order openly encouraged people to protest on their behalf on the streets, effectively creating the trouble the police were trying to avoid in the first place as a message to say 'you cant stop the trouble, if you dont let us cause trouble then we will create it. so Neaaah!'(artistic license here
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The fact that paramilitary groups were ready with weapons and 'street grenades' in a rather organised manner yet further points towards the idea that the primary objective of the event this year was to stir up massive amounts of trouble and make a show of strength.
The sad fact is whilst many people in Ireland desperately want peace (or at least don't care enough to get involved either way) there are still significant numbers on both sides who only want to see their beliefs win and the opposition go into submission. Big steps have happened towards peace and overall things have improved a lot but it will be a long time if ever that Ireland is totally at peace with itself.
The orange march's are one of those traditions that have been given great importance within the Loyalist culture. The general idea was/is to march past your enemies in a show of strength and to prove that they have no fear. the tradition is a few hundred years old and is considered almost a religeous right by the orange order members.
Now the marches had been illegal for quite a while (up until recently) because the British army found it hard enough to keep calm without having to manage a march which is primarily designed to piss off the other side. With the move towards peace the rules were relaxed, the parades commission was set up to try and allow the marches to go ahead again without all the trouble that had previously been associated with them.
Unfortunately such an idea is flawed when it comes to the Orange Order because as previously mentiond they specifically believe it is their right and duty to declare their superiority and piss off their enemies, hence to pay attention to the compromises that were being suggested would defeat the objective for them. At this point I guess it would be good to point out that this is from the perspective of someone not in the Orange Order, their version is that they are not inciting anything, they are just doing that which it is their right to do.
So onto the recent riots... It was caused because the Orange order planned the march to go through an opposition area, the police decided this would only cause trouble so they made them change the route by 100yards or so. In response the Orange Order openly encouraged people to protest on their behalf on the streets, effectively creating the trouble the police were trying to avoid in the first place as a message to say 'you cant stop the trouble, if you dont let us cause trouble then we will create it. so Neaaah!'(artistic license here
The fact that paramilitary groups were ready with weapons and 'street grenades' in a rather organised manner yet further points towards the idea that the primary objective of the event this year was to stir up massive amounts of trouble and make a show of strength.
The sad fact is whilst many people in Ireland desperately want peace (or at least don't care enough to get involved either way) there are still significant numbers on both sides who only want to see their beliefs win and the opposition go into submission. Big steps have happened towards peace and overall things have improved a lot but it will be a long time if ever that Ireland is totally at peace with itself.
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I was joking! duuuuh! You dont know who will be scum at birth do you?
The thing is its not as if its one or two people doing these absolutly unbelevable AND SHOCKING THINGS!
The footage I am eseeing ion TV is just gobsmaking! its just beyond anyones wildest nightmares!
ALL the people involved in this need to be locked up and beaten! or better still killed, as the world does not need scum like this and pretty much all of them will get away with no punishment at all for trying to kill others in plain sight of cameras!
The scenes are just staggering, the pure anger on the faces of little children trying to kill people is off the scale of insanity, the whole place needs burning down as really its a total warzone at the moment.
It makes me sick that the pure scum dont get locked up, from the look of it many thousands of them are doing it and the gangs are massive and armed to the teeth with every weapon known to man! from knives and bricks, to machine guns and bombs!!!!
I cannot be the only one who feels they do not deserve to live, as really they do not and I hope they kill each other, and not the police, doctors, ambulance drivers, fire engine crew and army trying to save lives. Scum like this have no right in my mind and I really feel for the poor innocent people living in the areas effected by the pure scum Irish bastards.
The thing is its not as if its one or two people doing these absolutly unbelevable AND SHOCKING THINGS!
The footage I am eseeing ion TV is just gobsmaking! its just beyond anyones wildest nightmares!
ALL the people involved in this need to be locked up and beaten! or better still killed, as the world does not need scum like this and pretty much all of them will get away with no punishment at all for trying to kill others in plain sight of cameras!
The scenes are just staggering, the pure anger on the faces of little children trying to kill people is off the scale of insanity, the whole place needs burning down as really its a total warzone at the moment.
It makes me sick that the pure scum dont get locked up, from the look of it many thousands of them are doing it and the gangs are massive and armed to the teeth with every weapon known to man! from knives and bricks, to machine guns and bombs!!!!
I cannot be the only one who feels they do not deserve to live, as really they do not and I hope they kill each other, and not the police, doctors, ambulance drivers, fire engine crew and army trying to save lives. Scum like this have no right in my mind and I really feel for the poor innocent people living in the areas effected by the pure scum Irish bastards.
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Why is someone scum for wanting to eliminate scum? I know Romero is coarse in the way he vents his spleen - but there is a point there somewhere. Who doesn't want to turn on the news and find no bad stories about nasty bastards doing evil shit? If it was possible to eliminate all scum from the planet without innocent people being affected wouldn't you want to do that? I think that's where Romero is coming from rather than making a literal request that babies be slaughtered at birth.
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And who are you to determine who is scum? I mean in the eyes of anybody, everybody could be scum. Who is scum in George Bush's eyes? Who is scum in the eyes of North Korea? Who is scum in the eyes of Osama Bin Laden? If they were all allowed to eliminate those whom they think are scum, what would the world look like on top of what it is looking like anyways?Markgway wrote:If it was possible to eliminate all scum from the planet without innocent people being affected wouldn't you want to do that?
So in regards to your original question, why those who kill scum are scum as well... In my eyes, George Bush and Toy Blair are scum for killing those whom they portray as scum. It's as simple as that. I'd make myself scum to a lot of people if I killed them and so on and so on...
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Scum are people that hurt other people for their own benefit/joy. People with no moral conscious. I wouldnt care less if Osama killed Bush, as I consider Bush a villain. However, I also wouldnt care if Bin Laden got killed, as he killed alot of innocent people. If Bin Laden would have only targeted those responsible for the injustices in the arab world (and if he cares so much about it, he should also target the evil 'islamic' leaders who abuse the faith for their own ridiculous beliefs and for their own good...)
I don't care when football-rioters get stabbed/killed whatever. I don't give a shit when a corrupt/racist politician gets shot. I only care about the normal people who just want to live a normal, good, happy life without hurting others ...
I also feel that, in Holland, people should go after those murderers/rapists that never got punished, and just waste them. Just last week there was a kid in Almere who had raped a 13 year old girl. Not only did he hardly get any punishment, he wanst even expelled from the school, so the girl still often comes across this guy. 2 weeks orso ago the kids who had commited a gang-rape on multiple girls, all got off very litely, with the highest punsihment being 1-2 years in prison or whatever. I'd say, find out who these guys are and just cut their balls off.
The goverment and the law are supposed to preserve JUSTICE. If it fails to do that, society should take matters into it's own hand.
... now who wants to join my band of vigilantes!?!?
I don't care when football-rioters get stabbed/killed whatever. I don't give a shit when a corrupt/racist politician gets shot. I only care about the normal people who just want to live a normal, good, happy life without hurting others ...
I also feel that, in Holland, people should go after those murderers/rapists that never got punished, and just waste them. Just last week there was a kid in Almere who had raped a 13 year old girl. Not only did he hardly get any punishment, he wanst even expelled from the school, so the girl still often comes across this guy. 2 weeks orso ago the kids who had commited a gang-rape on multiple girls, all got off very litely, with the highest punsihment being 1-2 years in prison or whatever. I'd say, find out who these guys are and just cut their balls off.
The goverment and the law are supposed to preserve JUSTICE. If it fails to do that, society should take matters into it's own hand.
... now who wants to join my band of vigilantes!?!?
I was there, the big BNB blackout of november, 2008. We lost many that day...
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I'm a nobody. That's why I don't get to choose. But by your token either EVERYBODY or NOBODY is scum -- so why bother having laws? Of course this argument is purely theoretical. What I'm saying is that - if I can rephrase - if there was a way in which "scum" could be detected and eliminated (and by scum I mean "evil" people) wouldn't you do that? I have no doubt that what Blair and Bush did/continue to do is morally wrong but I wouldn't classify them as evil. Al Queda on the other hand target civilians and that is not war: it's murder. I shouldn't speak for Romero, but I think what he's talking about is a far-fetched ideology ("wouldn't it be great if...") rather than any kind of literal action plan.thelostdragon wrote:And who are you to determine who is scum?
So what would you do with scum if not kill them?In my eyes, George Bush and Toy Blair are scum for killing those whom they portray as scum. It's as simple as that. I'd make myself scum to a lot of people if I killed them and so on and so on...
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I know there's the obvious tongue-in-cheek element in that last paragraph, but I think Yi Long's words illustrate the kind of moral and social injustice we're talking about. Yi-Long wants to cut "a scum's" balls off. He's not going to go out and do it, but the fantasy element is there. Like the rest of us Yi-Long wants a society for good people where scum don't exist. It's impossible in reality, but we can dream can we? Romero puts those fantasies into crude language which, whilst explosive in hyperbole, isn't that far removed from what each of us thinks. Except maybe Lost Dragon??Yi-Long wrote:I also feel that, in Holland, people should go after those murderers/rapists that never got punished, and just waste them. Just last week there was a kid in Almere who had raped a 13 year old girl. Not only did he hardly get any punishment, he wanst even expelled from the school, so the girl still often comes across this guy. 2 weeks orso ago the kids who had commited a gang-rape on multiple girls, all got off very litely, with the highest punsihment being 1-2 years in prison or whatever. I'd say, find out who these guys are and just cut their balls off.
The goverment and the law are supposed to preserve JUSTICE. If it fails to do that, society should take matters into it's own hand.
... now who wants to join my band of vigilantes!?!?
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The thing is these Irish riots are not for political or any other reason, apart from scum having fun causing extreme violence and looting, blowing up cars and attacking police etc... THEY ARE SCUM! anyone thowing bombs for fun just for the hell of does not deserve any sympathy at all.
I take it Lost Dragon has not seen the footage and much on it, as if you did you would feel sick at the way these people are acting, they are like wild dogs and as soon as trouble stars they all come out to play for plain and simple reasons, to have fun by causing trouble. Thats not a normal person and the people in the footage are getting off on causing scenes is appauling violence, they do it for the kicks and from the look of it they are having the time of their lives!
I just hope they spend the rest of their lives in jail, or dead. Even the scum kids, as really think what their parents must be like if the kids do that!? doesnt bare thinking abiout really.
If it was maybe a protest against something, then maybe it would have a reason and a little justice to a riot, but these fools are not in it for any politcical reasons at all, they want to cause as much damage to anyone, or anything that gets in their ways.
If that isnt SCUM what is?
I take it Lost Dragon has not seen the footage and much on it, as if you did you would feel sick at the way these people are acting, they are like wild dogs and as soon as trouble stars they all come out to play for plain and simple reasons, to have fun by causing trouble. Thats not a normal person and the people in the footage are getting off on causing scenes is appauling violence, they do it for the kicks and from the look of it they are having the time of their lives!
I just hope they spend the rest of their lives in jail, or dead. Even the scum kids, as really think what their parents must be like if the kids do that!? doesnt bare thinking abiout really.
If it was maybe a protest against something, then maybe it would have a reason and a little justice to a riot, but these fools are not in it for any politcical reasons at all, they want to cause as much damage to anyone, or anything that gets in their ways.
If that isnt SCUM what is?
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