Let's make P2P entirely legal, we say

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 06 Feb 2006, 17:06

Isn't it BECAUSE prostitution is illegal that its' driven underground? If it was allowed in some form (as in the Government proposals) wouldn't it be safer for the women concerned?

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 06 Feb 2006, 17:42

romerojpg wrote:Why France anyway? is there a reason they are doing this?

Probably the only country with the balls to stand up to the music industry.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 06 Feb 2006, 18:02

Or they are all mental for even trying

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 06 Feb 2006, 20:10

Why France anyway?
-Probably the only country with the balls to stand up to the music industry.
-Or they are all mental for even trying .

Possibly both.

It's easier for them to fight the Music/Film industries because most of it belongs to just one group (Vivendi Universal) in France.
Also, Disney/Miramax/Dimension don't have a lot of influence over here. That helps a lot.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 07 Feb 2006, 01:38

Viva la France

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 09 Feb 2006, 03:01

French court rules in favor of private P2P use

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060207-6135.html

As the French think about the possibility of making P2P legal by merely charging internet users a flat monthly fee, the court looks to be suggesting that current usage is already legal.

a young man ("Antoine G") charged with uploading and downloading over 1,200 audio files whose copyrights were represented by a French recording industry organization...The ruling from the district court is clear: the defendant was making use of these files for private, personal use, and thus his use was legal.

Yes, I AM LOVING THIS !!

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 21 Feb 2006, 17:58

Ny uploading songs how are they possibly for personal use? He's effectively distributing music without copyright approval???

Tom2681 wrote:Apparently they want every single Internet user in France to regularly pay a small fee that will then be sent to the music and film industries.

As if that would ever happen.

Tom2681 wrote:It's easier for them to fight the Music/Film industries because most of it belongs to just one group (Vivendi Universal) in France.

What are their better known labels?

Tom2681 wrote:Also, Disney/Miramax/Dimension don't have a lot of influence over here. That helps a lot.

They aren't the only labels. What about the other big ones?

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 03 Mar 2006, 00:15

What are their better known labels?

Canal +, Universal, Studio Canal, Polydor, Mercury records, Philips...
All that belongs to one group: Vivendi.

Shen · Post by **Shen** » 03 Mar 2006, 00:23

http://www.downhillbattle.org

alli cna say really, the big companies are scrweing the artists like crazy, fully support filesharing, of course its nice to have the cd and stuff, but the amount the actual artists get from your cd is nothing really!

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 09 Mar 2006, 14:20

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4770458.stm

French MPs vote on digital piracy

French MPs who have already voted once to legalise the online sharing of music and films are to consider the matter again next week.

It was an embarrassing defeat for the government, which had planned to introduce large fines and possible jail terms of up to three years for internet pirates.

This is gonna be good.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 19 Mar 2006, 10:02

The debate on the new French copyright law is over.

The final draft still includes the passage that makes bypassing DRM for interoperability legal and allows private copying (in a yet to be determined number), but also includes a "Universal Vivendi" clause which introduces high fines for knowingly distribute software whose primary purpose it is to allow unauthorized access to protected works.

An earlier amendment, which would have legalized the use of peer-to-peer networks to download songs and films for a flat monthly fee of several euros, was killed by fierce opposition from artists, film production houses and record companies.

Bah, fair enough.

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