new scarface release...

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 24 Jul 2006, 22:59

Hmm, that's far from conclusive. What is "some comments have been removed" supposed to mean. A second, a minute, 30 minutes, who knows?

It must be seconds as I'm sure it was about 55 minutes originally.

"You can watch all three parts in one go by selecting Play All but, frankly, I preferred this in its original incarnation." - You could do that on the original DVD. Agreed it was better in it's original form though.

Actually come to think of that section you highlight is incorrect. It's split into 4 sections as the footage about the TV Cut was part of the documentary too originally.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 07 Aug 2006, 17:50

Full details are up:

For this all-new, two-disc platinum edition every sound effect in the film has been replaced and digitally remastered for the “ultimate Scarface experience”. The Platinum Edition also offers additional new bonus features and specially designed packaging.

Disc 1: Main Feature

* 2.35:1 Anamorphic Widescreen
* English DD5.1 Surround (Producer’s Mix)
* English DTS 5.1
* French & Spanish Mono
* English SDH, French & Spanish subtitles
* Scarface Scoreboard: Watch Scarface like never before...keep track of the number of times the "F" word is used and the number of bullets fired

Disc 2: Extra Features

* Deleted Scenes: Over 20 minutes of intense deleted scenes will leave fans wanting more!
* Making of Scarface: The Video Game - Immerse yourself in the world of Scarface in this behind-the-scenes look at the creation of the video game
* The World of Tony Montana: Experience the decadent world of the ultimate gangster in this all-new feature. Revel in Tony's luxurious and extravagant life in the underworld
* Scarface: The Rebirth: Actor Al Pacino, director Brian De Palma, producer Martin Bregman, and screenwriter Oliver Stone examine the history of Scarface, from the original 1932 classic to shooting the script
* Scarface: Creating - A fascinating look at the controversial making of Scarface and the triumphs and struggles experienced by its filmmakers, including the filming of the unforgettable chainsaw scene, location changes, the producer's battles to gain an "R" rating and more
* Scarface: Acting - Al Pacino and other cast members offer insider stories and revealing insights into how these legendary characters were created
* Scarface: TV Version Montage - A revealing and hilarious montage of film clips that compare and contrast the theatrical release to the network version of Scarface

Source: http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=61896

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 07 Aug 2006, 17:51

THREE releases and we still don't really have any new or rather decent extras over the first disc. STILL the best extra is the Documentary Making of. (split up since the SE).

# English DD5.1 Surround (Producer’s Mix)
# English DTS 5.1

Are we to presume for some reason ONLY the DD5.1 is getting the new remix?

From what I can see the NEW extras seem to be, right? -

# Scarface Scoreboard: Watch Scarface like never before...keep track of the number of times the "F" word is used and the number of bullets fired
# Making of Scarface: The Video Game - Immerse yourself in the world of Scarface in this behind-the-scenes look at the creation of the video game
# The World of Tony Montana: Experience the decadent world of the ultimate gangster in this all-new feature. Revel in Tony's luxurious and extravagant life in the underworld

The rest look like the same as what was on the previous release. Thank god they've exorcised those crud Rap & Hip Hop extras. Those really were trash, odd they've removed them though.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 07 Aug 2006, 18:01

Yep as I thought those ARE the news extras, SE extras:

* Deleted scenes (22:39 min)
* "Scarface: The Rebirth" featurette (10:11 min)
* "Scarface: Creating" featurette (29:37 min)
* "Scarface: Acting" featurette (15:08 min)
* "Scarface: The TV Version" featurette (2:49 min)
* "Def Jam Presents: Origins of a Hip Hop Classic" featurette (20:34 min) - REMOVED

All in all the extras "could" be better but ultimately it comes down to whether the 5.1 remix is really worth the upgrade. I'd be surprised if the picture quality has been remastered???

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 08 Aug 2006, 18:51

recently sold my region 1 deluxe set for £40 on ebay so i'll be picking this release up

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 08 Aug 2006, 19:03

I will for sure IF the 5.1 remix is much better. I love this film and will gladly buy it a third time.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 19 Aug 2006, 00:38

Bah! They've replaced the classy menus from the SE.

bradavon wrote:
# English DD5.1 Surround (Producer’s Mix)
# English DTS 5.1
Are we to presume for some reason ONLY the DD5.1 is getting the new remix?

I hope so. The option of the original sound mix AND the one with the replaced SFX would be great.

Brad, do you have the 2003 R1 SE or the R2 SE? Cuz if you have the R1 SE (for the burnt-in original theatrical prologue text) and it turns out there's no original sound mix on the new PE, then I'll be willing to take it off your hands.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 19 Aug 2006, 02:02

The option of the original sound mix AND the one with the replaced SFX would be great.

Agreed but there would be two much better scenarios:

1. Original Surround, Remixed DTS and DD5.1
2. Remixed DTS and Current SE DD5.1

There are no sound effects afaik Eva.

Brad, do you have the 2003 R1 SE or the R2 SE? Cuz if you have the R1 SE (for the burnt-in original theatrical prologue text) and it turns out there's no original sound mix on the new PE, then I'll be willing to take it off your hands.

There is no Original mix. I presume you mean the first 5.1 mix?

I have the UK R2. I should've gone for the R1 mind you as the subtitled prologue text is messy. Thankfully there aren't many throughout the film. I'll be getting the R1 this time.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 19 Aug 2006, 02:33

bradavon wrote:There are no sound effects afaik Eva.

Did you miss something?

For this all-new, two-disc platinum edition every sound effect in the film has been replaced and digitally remastered for the “ultimate Scarface experience”. The Platinum Edition also offers additional new bonus features and specially designed packaging.

But we really won't know for sure what exactly is that they've done until the reviews appear/after the release is out.

There is no Original mix. I presume you mean the first 5.1 mix?

Yes. Given that it's virtually just a discrete version of the original Stereo Surround track.

Hehe, Brad have you noticed how often entire threads just turn into a discussion just between the two of us?

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 19 Aug 2006, 10:28

True. I don't know why but certain classic films few others here seem interested in.

I did miss/forget that line thanks. "Personally" I'd still prefer both to be remixed as if the remix is awful I'll simply own my current DVD, the 5.1 remix is THE reason I'm getting it.

I'll wait to read reviews first. Hopefully they're not vague this time or we'll get a comparison review. The reviews at the time comparing the SE to Original were rubbish, none compared the DVDs.

I don't care how bad the Original R1 was that was already a given.

Given that it's virtually just a discrete version of the original Stereo Surround track.

True and more the reason I want a proper 5.1 remix but not if it's a dodgy HKesque one.

Now I know that I'll hold on to my current DVD for sure.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 19 Aug 2006, 11:28

bradavon wrote:"Personally" I'd still prefer both to be remixed as if the remix is awful I'll simply own my current DVD, the 5.1 remix is THE reason I'm getting it.

I wouldn't say awful, let alone old HK remix awful. I do remember being really disappointed when I viewed the film for the first time back in 2004, I was expecting a really dynamic DTS 5.1 experience. This was before I was a "partial purist".

It's worth noting that 5.1 remix on Carlito's Way is also a glorified stereo surround experience. When I saw it for the first time a couple months back (outstanding film BTW, only weak point being Penelope Ann Miller, she was totally lacking of sex appeal for someone whose supposed to be stripper.) I forgave the sound mix thinking "Meh, this is what it originally sounded like in 1993 anyway."

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 19 Aug 2006, 12:18

Neither would I. You missed what I was saying. I meant the new 5.1 remix we've not heard yet not the existing one. Which as you say it's virtually the same as the Surround, a bit more bass mainly.

I was expecting a really dynamic DTS 5.1 experience.

Me too and I still am.

It's worth noting that 5.1 remix on Carlito's Way is also a glorified stereo surround experience.

True but you know what the audio in that isn't half as immersive as Scarface so I'm more than happy with it.