9/11: The Day the World Stood Still - 5th Anniversary

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 11 Sep 2006, 22:33

EDITED

Shingster · Post by **Shingster** » 12 Sep 2006, 11:12

Ah, I see RomeroJPG can still be relied on to provide an intelligent and civilised contribution to a thread.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 12 Sep 2006, 14:07

Yi-Long wrote:And there's no fucking way in hell that that's offensive to any of the victims or their families. If you do feel it is, then you're either an idiot, or you're misreading my posts (on purpose?) which seems to be a tradition here on BNB.

My comments weren't aimed specifically or exclusively at you.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 12 Sep 2006, 16:27

Shingster wrote:Ah, I see RomeroJPG can still be relied on to provide an intelligent and civilised contribution to a thread.

What like all the other posts in this thread? I didnt take the topic wayyy off topic with ignorant conspiracy theories and off topic bile. People on this forum ruin most threads with childish banter about what they Think happened, I guess they were personally at the scene and know all the "facts". But ohh they dont

ohh yeah Hilter was a robot, I read it somewhere and it must be true.

I think a mod should just go thru this thread and wipe all the shit from it, that will be most posts.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 12 Sep 2006, 16:34

Markgway wrote:I saw it live on TV just like most I expect.

I think I saw it on TV or at least heard about it if I was in college that day

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 12 Sep 2006, 16:57

romerojpg wrote:
Shingster wrote:Ah, I see RomeroJPG can still be relied on to provide an intelligent and civilised contribution to a thread.
I think a mod should just go thru this thread and wipe all the shit from it, that will be most posts.

If mods would do that, we'd never hear from you ever again, my dear...

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 12 Sep 2006, 17:24

God would have deleted you at birth, if he had known about you in the future.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 12 Sep 2006, 17:33

Romero wrote:I guess they were personally at the scene and know all the "facts". But ohh they dont

In this particular case, "being there" wouldn't have helped.

You need to gather info from many different sources to realize that this was no terrorist act, that's all.

Romero wrote:I think a mod should just go thru this thread and wipe all the shit from it

Not me, sorry. You'll have to ask Brad.

I'm not a hypocrite.
I can't just cry for those people without explaining what happened to them.
Anything less would be an insult to their memories.

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 12 Sep 2006, 17:37

Alright, I'm appealing for someone lock this thread up please. What little remembrance about the people (not specific to the towers but everyone who had passed on as a result of the events as well) was to be done has been done and now it's just become another one of BnB's much more commonplace arguments.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 12 Sep 2006, 17:38

Locking now.

If anyone wants me to re-open it, PM me.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 13 Sep 2006, 15:29

grim_tales wrote:Yi/Tom, whatever the rights and wrongs of Iraq/everything else, today should be about reflecting and paying respect to those who died on 9/11, which was the point of this thread I believe (though I don't like Eva's ironic tone as you go down the post which sounds like a rant).

You're all way off the mark regarding the point of this thread.

Personally, I'm completely indifferent towards America, 9-11, GWOT, etc.

The point of the thread was to generate heated debate, because I was just curious about everyone's current stances on the issue. Deceptive provocation I felt was the best way to generate passionate & uninfluenced responses. That is all, kthxbye.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 13 Sep 2006, 15:34

OK fair enough, its just the title of the thread sounded reflective to me.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 13 Sep 2006, 16:46

I dont think its a subject worth talking about, but I keep doing it.

None of us know any real facts, just what we read somewhere, some people I am sure know the facts, but its not these stupid documentaires/so called facts people beleve with every single grain of their brain.

slasher13 · Post by **slasher13** » 13 Sep 2006, 16:53

If you look at some of the documentary, they do give you food for thought Romero.

1. Explosions can be seen before the tower collape
2. Why did World Trade Centre 7 collape when all other building was left upright, the building was no where near the two towers
3. On the Pentagon, where is the wing span, or the hole where the wing span should have hit.
4. To this day why doesn't the US government show clearly the plane hitting the pentagon, they just show a few seconds.... This is five years after!!!

Food for thought

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 13 Sep 2006, 17:04

I take it none of you have read the other stuff saying why them explosions happened, the plane in Pentagon etc..? (not the reasons in them docs etc.)

Obviously not, as thats not a conspiracy and wont get even 1% as much attention. The media hound Consiracy Theorists get the media attention, the others so called facts dont.

I watched a lot of stuff and read a lot, but really we dont know anything and clever wording and flashy info in docs etc.. doesnt make any of it real.

Give it 50 years and America will tell all I guess, as its the law apprently

As for footage etc of the Pentagon, I have read many things why they wont show footage etc.. legal matters is where most footage seems to end up and then the public never gets to see that ever.

Many things I want to know about, but really I dont see many facts yet and maybe we never will. The passport for me sums up the whole thing, black boxes may be vaporised? bullshit, but that passport of the plane crasher is found, it could be true, but again it may not be, just because it sounds silly doesnt mean it isnt true.
I am sure in another 10 years we will know more, for now I take every single word with a pinch of salt and dont get too excited about the so called facts.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 13 Sep 2006, 17:16

There are unanswered questions about what went on that day... I've read articles... asked myself the same questions as you... but it seems every thread that offers rememberence for the 9/11 victims or suggests sympathy turns into another finger-pointing conspiracy-baiting take-a-pot-shot-at-Washington thread... It's tired. Can we just for once have a thread that doesn't degenerate into the same old arguments and hate? Yes, Bush used 9/11 as an excuse to wage a bloody war in the Middle East. He's a bastard. We know.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 13 Sep 2006, 17:18

I agree with you Mark (not aiming that specifically at anyone)

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 13 Sep 2006, 17:26

Still an excuse for war it was, but hell it still toppled an evil dictator who killed more people than america ever could, his own flipping people!

Madman Husein I cannot see Him getting punished any time soon with the theatrics he does in the dock, what a waste of time, cash and peoples lives! kill him now, save millions and its over, only someone ignorant would not think he is guilty of crimes agaisnt humainty. Saying that many still think he was set up by America

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 13 Sep 2006, 18:09