Shrek 2 R4 Release

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 02 Nov 2006, 08:31

Was there a 2 disc R4 of Shrek 2?
According to Rewind this is the best release to get as the film is uncut/unaltered plus it has all the extras. I can only find a 1 discer at DVD Crave/Ezy though.

http://www.dvdcrave.com/products/product.jsp?pid=27996

http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=6246

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 02 Nov 2006, 19:41

That depends how you define uncut/unaltered. I wish people would stop incorrectly calling the UK version altered, it's not it's just an alternate cut!

Personally I loved the changes. The extra 2 disc extras are pants from what I can see.

BiscLimpkit · Post by **BiscLimpkit** » 02 Nov 2006, 19:50

Erm... it is altered.

Firstly, a headbutt was removed so it's technically censored.

And new voice actors replace the original ones to suit British audiences (even the character who looked like Joan Rivers and was voiced by Joan Rivers.... and is actually credited as Joan Rivers in the movie, was replaced by Kate Thornton).

Sorry but Shrek 2 was most definitely altered.... and bastardised for us Brits.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 02 Nov 2006, 19:54

BiscLimpkit wrote:Firstly, a headbutt was removed so it's technically censored.

I sit corrected. I didn't know/forgot that.

BiscLimpkit wrote:And new voice actors replace the original ones to suit British audiences (even the character who looked like Joan Rivers and was voiced by Joan Rivers.... and is actually credited as Joan Rivers in the movie, was replaced by Kate Thornton).

Sorry but Shrek 2 was most definitely altered.... and bastardised for us Brits.

That's done plenty of time in America and no one cares. It was altered by the studio/film-crew so nope bar that minor cut it's definitely not bastardised or altered in the usual sense.

The UK cut is better. I've not even heard of some of the American choices. The recognisable voices add to the humour.

Considering I'd loose my preferred cut I'm happy to live without the head butt.

BiscLimpkit · Post by **BiscLimpkit** » 02 Nov 2006, 20:04

bradavon wrote: That's done plenty of time in America and no one cares.

If it doesn't affect anyone (apart from Americans) then why should we care?

bradavon wrote: I wish people would stop incorrectly calling the UK version altered,

bradavon wrote: It was altered by the studio/film-crew

The fact that the studio imposed these modifications is irrelavant IMO. But if you prefer the UK version then fair enough.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 02 Nov 2006, 21:55

That's not what I said. I said the film crew did it so it's official, no?

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 02 Nov 2006, 21:59

The UK dub for me was rubbish - a character that looks like Joan Rivers had a completely inappropiate voice in Kate Thorton (same for Wossy as one of the Ugly Sisters) it just didnt feel right.

I'll get the 1 disc R4 then.
Also one of John Cleese's lines is changed in the UK edition, removing a British/UK gag.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 02 Nov 2006, 22:00

Really, what?

What's wrong with the R1?

BiscLimpkit · Post by **BiscLimpkit** » 02 Nov 2006, 22:25

bradavon wrote:That's not what I said. I said the film crew did it so it's official, no?

I certainly didn't misquote you. I'd say the UK modifications were more studio influenced - most likely from the UK branch. For sure it's official. However it's still altered from the original director approved version.

grim_tales wrote: I'll get the 1 disc R4 then.
Also one of John Cleese's lines is changed in the UK edition, removing a British/UK gag.

Grim the R4 single disc (which appears to have been released recently) appears to be identical to the R1 single disc. My advise to you would be to go for the cheapest option.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 02 Nov 2006, 22:48

BiscLimpkit wrote:I certainly didn't misquote you. I'd say the UK modifications were more studio influenced - most likely from the UK branch. For sure it's official. However it's still altered from the original director approved version.

To be fair you don't know that more than I do. It's certainly possible Fox said:

"Hey Mr Director, fancy changing for the UK market?" "Sure why not!".

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 02 Nov 2006, 22:49

R4 single disc seems fine - someone on Imports Forum said its not been released yet (Paramount now have the Shrek 2 rights apparently and are releasing it in December - but Ezy/Crave state its this month?)

The original Cleese line was "The old Crusade wound playing up" and was overdubbed in the UK version with "The old hunting wound playing up"

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OVERALL: R4

R4 2-Disc SE for being UNCUT, in Widescreen and with all the Extras. If the DISC TWO Extras don't bother you, then any release will do, EXCEPT for any of the UK/German Versions, as they are CUT and DUBBED. The R3 HK release has also had one line changed.

To see a picture comparison between R2 Germany and R3 HK, go HERE.
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CUTS:

* R1 America - (Dreamworks Interactive) - No Cuts - Both the headbutt and the Original Soundtrack are intact.
* R2 SE Germany - (Universal/ Dreamworks - Far Far Away Edition) - Yes - Soundtrack substitution:
- The line spoken by the King (John Cleese) "The old crusade wound playing up" has been replaced with "The old hunting wound playing up".
* R2 United Kingdom - (Universal/ Dreamworks) - Yes - Prior to classification:
- A headbutt was removed.
- The "UK DUB" replaces Actors Larry King and Joan Rivers with Jonathan Ross and Kate Thornton, respectively.
- The line spoken by the King (John Cleese) "The old crusade wound playing up" has been replaced with "The old hunting wound playing up", stupidly removing a British joke for British audiences.
* R2 United Kingdom - (Universal/ Dreamworks - Far Far Away Edition) - Yes - Prior to classification:
- A headbutt was removed.
- The "UK DUB" replaces Actors Larry King and Joan Rivers with Jonathan Ross and Kate Thornton, respectively.
- The line spoken by the King (John Cleese) "The old crusade wound playing up" has been replaced with "The old hunting wound playing up", stupidly removing a British joke for British audiences.
* R3 Hong Kong - (Dreamworks) - Yes - Despite both the headbutt and the Original Soundtrack being intact the line spoken by the King (John Cleese) "The old crusade wound playing up" has been replaced with "The old hunting wound playing up".
* R4 Australia - (Universal/ Dreamworks) - No Cuts - Both the headbutt and the Original Soundtrack are intact.
* R4 SE Australia - (Universal/ Dreamworks - Far Far Away Edition) - No Cuts - 88.38 mins (PAL). Both the headbutt and the Original Soundtrack are intact.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 02 Nov 2006, 23:02

I remember that line, who they thought it would offend is beyond me.

Oh I see the second UK/Aussie Disc was never released on R1. I bet the R1 will be cheaper though, surely? 1 Disc wise.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 03 Nov 2006, 08:55

The R4 is a wee bit cheaper (not by much) according to DVD Price checker.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 03 Nov 2006, 18:59

Fair enough, work out the prices yourself though as DVD Price Checkers calculations can often be way off.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 03 Nov 2006, 19:43

OK, I'll compare the R1 v R4 later