Police Story HKL Reg. 2 Vs Dragon Dynasty Reg 1 Vs IVL Reg 3

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 12 Dec 2006, 20:10

Hey the Drunken Master 2 VCD is better than the DVD.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 12 Dec 2006, 20:20

You reckon? Personally if I wanted that uber-bore fest (not at dull as DM though) I'd get the Thakral, currently.

At least that's watchable. Funnily enough I have or used to have the Speedy DM2 VCD, it was atrocious. Okay I enjoyed it a bit but it's still dull overall.

All I want is Joy Sales to release the Police Story films separately so I can pick up Police Story 3, the best of the bunch (any second someone's going to blow

, they always do).

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 12 Dec 2006, 20:31

Jackie: It's for your own safety
Brigitte: I don't need you,you parasite!
for tom

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 12 Dec 2006, 20:37

The final fight scene in Drunken Master 2 makes the film worth it for me. It's my favourite fight scene ever. I wouldn't call the film an 'uber-bore fest', but it's not amazing either. I really want a new release to come out; I don't want my Thakral anymore lol.

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 12 Dec 2006, 20:39

Drunken Master 2 is superb imo

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 12 Dec 2006, 20:39

To most HK fans it seems to be their Citizen Kane

(which is even more boring, by some way, technically it's clever though).

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 12 Dec 2006, 20:41

just shows how opinions differ-Shingster says the DD is the clear winner over the HKL and Brad says the DD is like a vcd :mrgreen: :drunken:

DangerousLeeHandsome · Post by **DangerousLeeHandsome** » 12 Dec 2006, 20:54

DD loses to IVL in the video dept but on the overall, DD is the winner. DD's got the best set of extras IMO.

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 12 Dec 2006, 20:58

I'd rather see the film presented properly than have extras.

DangerousLeeHandsome · Post by **DangerousLeeHandsome** » 12 Dec 2006, 21:15

gasteropod wrote:I'd rather see the film presented properly than have extras.

Wierd because usually when I use that same defense, others will say "but there are no extras so it automatically loses." Yes, the presentation does matter but in the case of PS, the differences are very slight so it doesn't really matter to me. Besides, I already own the previous IVL set which I still watch regularly. On the whole, I think DD's is the one to beat.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 12 Dec 2006, 21:23

gasteropod wrote:I'd rather see the film presented properly than have extras.

So does everyone else, that's a given. No harm in mentioning them though.

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 12 Dec 2006, 21:30

That's not true, I'm often seeing people choose a certain version due to its extra features.

Surely this is an example: 'DD loses to IVL in the video dept but on the overall, DD is the winner. DD's got the best set of extras IMO.' -DangerousLeeHandsome

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 12 Dec 2006, 21:46

@Sam:
Thanks for the sub sample.

Time to buy the DD.

RickyTheDragonSteamboat · Post by **RickyTheDragonSteamboat** » 12 Dec 2006, 22:18

Yeah nobody cares, but does anyone know if the DD English dub is new or if it's the same as the New Line dub? Because KillZone's English dubbing sucked major ass. (Don't start attcking me just yet. I only sampled it for reference).

Shingster · Post by **Shingster** » 12 Dec 2006, 23:06

Does anyone think it's a coincidence that the DD transfer suffers from what I like to call The Lobster Effect (ie the excessive reddening of skintones) that certain HKL transfers struck from FS remastered prints also suffer from?

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 12 Dec 2006, 23:42

Probably. Why am I laughing

Sorry I don't know Ricky.

gasteropod wrote:That's not true, I'm often seeing people choose a certain version due to its extra features.

I would presume that would depend how that person judges the AV. For example if the PQ is only minutely worse or the Mono is missing but person doesn't care.

Neither immediately make it worse than anything. PQ is very subjective.

gasteropod wrote:Surely this is an example: 'DD loses to IVL in the video dept but on the overall, DD is the winner. DD's got the best set of extras IMO.' -DangerousLeeHandsome

No as Lee has just said the DD has the best extras. He's not said he'd pick the DD over any other version.

I'm sure he means the DD wins over the IVL as it has Mono in sync (or it should).

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 13 Dec 2006, 00:01

'but on the overall, DD is the winner'

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 13 Dec 2006, 01:46

Shingster wrote:Does anyone think it's a coincidence that the DD transfer suffers from what I like to call The Lobster Effect (ie the excessive reddening of skintones) that certain HKL transfers struck from FS remastered prints also suffer from?

That crossed my mind... 8)

I'd buy the IVL set if the sound were in-sync. What are the chances Joy Sales will fix it? Does anyone know if they've fixed any other films that they've reissued?

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 13 Dec 2006, 02:04

Why are people forgetting that THE IVL IS INTERLACED?

DangerousLeeHandsome · Post by **DangerousLeeHandsome** » 13 Dec 2006, 03:32

bradavon wrote:
gasteropod wrote:Surely this is an example: 'DD loses to IVL in the video dept but on the overall, DD is the winner. DD's got the best set of extras IMO.' -DangerousLeeHandsome
No as Lee has just said the DD has the best extras. He's not said he'd pick the DD over any other version.

I'm sure he means the DD wins over the IVL as it has Mono in sync (or it should).

I'm just saying that personally, DD wins over the IVL (and HKL, slightly)simply because it has exclusive extras. But, I still prefer IVL's more natural looking image. It's not a crime to own both (or all 3) versions

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 13 Dec 2006, 05:45

If the DD is in-sync (the mono that is) and the subs are properly translated I'll buy it. The IVL has a better image (at least colour-wise) but the OOS mono is a killer and I suspect the subs are just copied from HKL (which is cropped and has the poorest image quality).

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 13 Dec 2006, 06:49

EvaUnit02 wrote:Why are people forgetting that THE IVL IS INTERLACED?

I don't notice it on my LCD screen, so nothing for me to worry about.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 13 Dec 2006, 19:19

EvaUnit02 wrote:Why are people forgetting that THE IVL IS INTERLACED?

I'm not forgetting it for a second but with that it's still the best. For some the same goes for the Bruce Lee Fox DVDs.

mike dk · Post by **mike dk** » 14 Dec 2006, 01:52

I already have both the IVL release (from the boxset) and the HKL release.... not sure if I want it a third time...the extras is tempting though. I'm wondering how the DD release will look on a big LCD screen. It looks very grainy but might be better looking on a big screen (my understanding is the high bit dvd's often look grainy on a small screen).

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 14 Dec 2006, 03:49

According to Running Man, the subtitles seem to be improved but not perfect and still fail to translate the theme.

Mono is genuine and in-synch.