Pirates of the Caribbean 3: At World's End

degeneration · Post by **degeneration** » 28 Jan 2007, 17:03

Brad - I think you missed the point there!! They were talking about Depp's acting in the film being oscar worthy, not the actual film. So comparing them to Goodfellas and Casino is quite pointless as Depp wasn't in them!!

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 28 Jan 2007, 17:40

I know. I still think regardless his acting in Donnie Brasco isn't Oscar worthy.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 28 Jan 2007, 17:45

Goodfellas or Casino are balls anyway

as is Donnie Brasco

Gangsta wankfests.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 28 Jan 2007, 18:02

What are the best gangster flicks Romero?

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 28 Jan 2007, 19:09

"Goodfellas" is very overrated and I always thought it was quite boring.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 29 Jan 2007, 00:27

I happen to really like Donnie Brasco.

I agree Goodfellas is overrated. Always preferred Casino myself.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 29 Jan 2007, 18:26

Shingster wrote:
grim_tales wrote:Depp actually won the Best Actor Oscar for his performance in the first one
I think Jamie Foxx would beg to differ

Doh! I mean he was nominated. Didn't he win the best actor BAFTA or something that year?

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 29 Jan 2007, 19:19

bradavon wrote:What are the best gangster flicks Romero?

I honestly cannot think of many that are "great" films. I thought The Limey was far better than most mind you, but off hand I cannot think of any right now. They all seems to blend into one, and all use the same ideas over and over again and sort of merge into one another to me.

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 31 Jan 2007, 11:33

Gangster No. 1

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 31 Jan 2007, 22:45

I LOVED Goodfellas the first bunch of times I saw it, although there are also times when I'm not 'into' it as much, and then it is pretty boring.

I personally dont like Casino. It starts of very promising and all, but as soon as Sharon Stone turns up, DeNiro changes into a pussywhipped mofo, the movie turns into a relationship drama, and it just ruins what could have been a great gangster-flick.

Donnie Brasco is a nice movie, with some good acting by Depp and Deniro. But the movie looks pretty lowbudget, it isnt all that entertaining or captivating, pretty predictable, the other actors seem to be overacting and just portraying caricatures of italian mafiosi. In the end, t coudl and should have been much better if it would have had a better diractor and/or screenwriter.

Good gangster movies (apart from the HK stuff, obviously) are IMO Layer Cake, Payback, Road to Perdition, The Untouchables, Friend (korean) and A Bittersweet Life (again korean)

I agree with Depp's acting in Brasco being very good, but indeed probably not worth an Oscar (perhaps a nomination)
I do think an actor of his quality should have a few Oscars by now, though. I mean, come on! Even Halle Berry and Kim Basinger have managed to win Oscars(!)

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 31 Jan 2007, 23:25

Yi-Long wrote:I LOVED Goodfellas the first bunch of times I saw it, although there are also times when I'm not 'into' it as much, and then it is pretty boring.

I was the reverse on the film: I didn't think much to it when I first saw it. It wasn't helped by Lorraine Bracco's character annoying the piss out of me. But the more I've watched it, the more I come to realise how well made it is. Cinematography is excellent, the script is a cracker and the acting (with the exception of DeNiro laughing - I've seen a few films where he's had scenes where he's meant to be laughing, but he always comes off as really fake

) is spot on.

I personally dont like Casino. It starts of very promising and all, but as soon as Sharon Stone turns up, DeNiro changes into a pussywhipped mofo, the movie turns into a relationship drama, and it just ruins what could have been a great gangster-flick.

I just can't get enough of Vegas

Donnie Brasco is a nice movie, with some good acting by Depp and Deniro. But the movie looks pretty lowbudget, it isnt all that entertaining or captivating, pretty predictable, the other actors seem to be overacting and just portraying caricatures of italian mafiosi. In the end, t coudl and should have been much better if it would have had a better diractor and/or screenwriter.

Aside from that I think you mean Pacino (;)), I agree with a few of the points you made. Although I still like the film.

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 31 Jan 2007, 23:29

Ow yeah, Pacino

I didnt say I didnt enjoy Brasco. Like I said, it's a good movie and I liked it. I just feel it could have been alot better.

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 01 Feb 2007, 01:22

Agree with Yi on his choice of good gangster films. "Road to Perdition", although very inspired by "Lone Wolf & Cub", is a first class gangster film. Probably the best one that was recently made in the USA.

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 01 Feb 2007, 02:53

I personally didn't think it was as good as the graphic novel (it didn't have the black humour, for starters) but it wasn't too bad.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 01 Feb 2007, 09:43

The graphic novel sounded too OOT to make into a serious film, seriously John Woo style action? I can't imagine Tom Hanks sliding down bannisters firing akimbo'ed pistols without snickering.

The scene where Tom Hanks mows down all the dudes in the rain with the Tommy gun was perfect IMO.

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 01 Feb 2007, 12:44

The graphic novel was meant to be an homage to gangster movies in general, including modern stuff, so it did have elements that you wouldn't necessarily associate with Depression-era gangsterism.

But because Mendes decided to play it straight, it did become more serious. I'm not saying it was a bad film; some great visuals (Hanks cocking his gun (oo-er

) whilst striding down a corridor was really well done, and like you said, the Tommy gun sequence) worked well for the film.

Wow, the past page has had nothing to do with Pirates 3

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 01 Feb 2007, 13:15

I actually also liked the movie better then the book. The movie skipped the whole deal between Hanks and the Police, which was in the book. The book also didnt show the 'love' and 'respect' between mr. Loony/Moony and Hanks' character, and the ending was very different as well.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 21 Mar 2007, 05:14

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thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 21 Mar 2007, 15:19

Dude, I can't wait!

BiscLimpkit · Post by **BiscLimpkit** » 28 May 2007, 18:46

I thought this was really disappointing.

IronMonkey · Post by **IronMonkey** » 28 May 2007, 20:44

I thought it was very dull. The fact that I looked at my watch to see how long it had been on just 20 minutes into the film showed that it just wasn't gripping me at all.

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 28 May 2007, 21:12

IronMonkey wrote:The fact that I looked at my watch to see how long it had been on just 20 minutes into the film

BiscLimpkit · Post by **BiscLimpkit** » 28 May 2007, 22:49

Did you guys wait till after the credits?

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 28 May 2007, 22:54

BiscLimpkit wrote:Did you guys wait till after the credits?

Lemme guess, crap that leaves it open for a 4th one?

BiscLimpkit · Post by **BiscLimpkit** » 28 May 2007, 22:56

Nope - it was left open for a fourth before the credits.

10 years later, Elizabeth (who hasn't aged at all) has a wee boy and they wait on the edge of a cliff. We see a green flash and William sails into view. Zzzz Zzzz.