Dead body near my house

BiscLimpkit · Post by **BiscLimpkit** » 08 Apr 2006, 23:12

I just found out today. It's sad and worrying news indeed as police have confirmed that the death was murder.

I drive past that area every day to get to work but the police have closed off the roads. Now I know why.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4877890.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4884228.stm

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 09 Apr 2006, 00:40

Whoa!! That must really scary!

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 09 Apr 2006, 16:36

Makes you wonder who did it, why etc.. it will make you feel better when you find these things out I am sure.

Someone was shotgunned outside my old house (right outside the door and the gun dumped down the drain), he was a drug dealing dick anyway so good thing I say

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 09 Apr 2006, 16:44

romerojpg wrote:Someone was shotgunned outside my old house (right outside the door and the gun dumped down the drain), he was a drug dealing dick anyway so good thing I say

Here we go again, making fun of other people's death. I'm sure if he was your brother, you'd talk differently. And please don't tell me you wouldn't mourn about a beloved family member if it turned out he was a drug dealer.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 09 Apr 2006, 17:47

Making fun, where am I making fun.

I said he was a "dick" and if your dealing drugs I have no pity, you may, but the majority of law abiding people dont care about scum like that.

and as far as making fun about death I can do that all I like if they are scumbags, no normal people give a shit apart from their friends and their family. Its one less piece of shit off the streets, but for you I am sure you want them on the streets dealing.

as far as mouring about some scumbag family member, I wouldnt have scum in my family like that so I wouldnt ever know of such things.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 09 Apr 2006, 18:00

LD isn't the kind of guy who laughs at funerals, I guess.
Bah, everybody has his own way of dealing with death.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 09 Apr 2006, 18:06

Death of people you know, respect, know are nice people etc.. yes its an awful thing for all involved and people looking in on the tragic events. I agree on that.

But criminals and them sorts, really I and many others have more important thing to think about than them sorts of people.

A lot of people deserve it and get it. If any of my family turned out to be a killer, drug dealer etc.. I have no idea how I would feel, its not really going to happen, but if it by some chance in a billion did happen, well I have no idea how I would feel till it did. Pity, and my feelings are for people who deserve it, not the criminal elements thats for sure.

The case of Biscs Murder near him is an awful thing for him and people around his area, and probibly the murdered persons family, but we dont know the facts yet, hopefully its a one off case and it wont effect the area too much and hopefully they will capture the killer and lay down the law, but thats not likley you barley get prison time for murder in the UK.

shame lock them up and throw away the key for killings, rape etc..

Shen · Post by **Shen** » 09 Apr 2006, 18:10

hmm i start to wonder if anyone has ever heard of the term "forgivness"

but anyway

it sucks this happens so close to you bisc, it must be quite weird that he wasnt caught yet and stuff.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 09 Apr 2006, 18:18

Forgivness, yes if its a small thing and they have been properly punished.

You kill someone in cold blod and torture them for days and get 5 years? thats justice? no they deserve a lot more. You try forgiving someone who murdered your entire family for instance, or burned your home to the ground?

I could go on, but people shouldnt do things that are bad, then they wouldnt need forgiving at all. I dont break the law, if I did I deserve everything that comes to me.

When something bad hapens to you try turning away and forgiving them, I have experiences such things and no way in hell I will ever forgive certain people and if I got my way they would be properly punished. A few years for murder/ rape is a crime in itself.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 09 Apr 2006, 18:39

Only the victim has the right to forgive and no one else.

And if they're dead that rules that out.

How dare anyone presume to forgive a murderer on society's behalf. What arrogance.

If you intentionally take the life of an innocent then you forfeit the right to your own.

We put dogs down for biting people but carve up a pregnant woman and you get a decade if you're lucky.

Justice smells in this country.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 09 Apr 2006, 18:47

At least I am not the only one then.

Shen · Post by **Shen** » 09 Apr 2006, 18:59

i think you will find that i did not mention that one should forgive on behalf of society. but simply that i wondered if people had heard fo the term forgivness.. there is far to much bitterness in this world, without holding a grudge against every little thing that happens that you dont like.

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 09 Apr 2006, 20:51

romerojpg wrote:Making fun, where am I making fun.

Uhm... allow me to quote you.

Someone was shotgunned outside my old house [...], he was a drug dealing dick anyway so good thing I say Very Happy

That smiley (

) you used does look very funny if you ask me.

and as far as making fun about death I can do that all I like if they are scumbags, no normal people give a shit apart from their friends and their family.

Care to explain what exactly is normal? I'd accept it if you said you could make fun of them if you KNEW they were scumbags. I doubt that you ever knew any of the killed persons you laughed about personally. A lot of small-time drug dealer has his reasons for becoming a drug dealer. It doesn't make it good, but certainly not as bad that it excuses making fun of their forced death.

For God's sake, romero, you are giving an ugly example of your culture that preaches to be so civilised.

Its one less piece of shit off the streets, but for you I am sure you want them on the streets dealing.

Again, how do you know he was a piece of shit? So he's not on the streets anymore. Wow! Are we off better now? People who want to take drugs will find a way to get their hands on them. It's not the dealers that create them. There soon will be someone replacing him, if there isn't already.

as far as mouring about some scumbag family member, I wouldnt have scum in my family like that so I wouldnt ever know of such things.

Not every family is as perfect as yours seems to be.

But criminals and them sorts, really I and many others have more important thing to think about than them sorts of people.

I simply asked you not to laugh about the death of a person caused by a shotgun. Nobody asks or expects you to think about them.

You kill someone in cold blod and torture them for days and get 5 years? thats justice? no they deserve a lot more.

You mean like the authorities in Guantanamo Bay for example who won't ever get a sentence? That's odd. I remember your opinion on that being a pro and not a contra.

You try forgiving someone who murdered your entire family for instance, or burned your home to the ground?

We have been talking about a drug-dealer, romero.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 09 Apr 2006, 21:00

You think way to much, even if you dont need to.

Drug Dealers I couldnt care less about reasons they deserve everything that comes to them. They KILL people and ruin lives I will

at any scumbag dealer dying any day.

Drug dealers = scum. The End from me

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 09 Apr 2006, 21:18

I think too much? I possibly do, but I wish a lot of more people would at least think a little bit.

And since when do drug dealers kill people? It's the drugs that can cause death. Drug dealers usually don't force people to buy drugs. It's the consumers who walk out of their door and ring the dealers up.

Shen · Post by **Shen** » 09 Apr 2006, 21:26

romerojpg wrote: Drug Dealers I couldnt care less about reasons they deserve everything that comes to them. They KILL people and ruin lives I will at any scumbag dealer dying any day.

and what do you class as drug dealers?

my sisters deal in drugs, maybe not hard drugs but one of them sells small time stuff like weed and everything are they scum? you know, i dont agree with what they do, but i dont think they deserve to die, even if they are wrong

personally i would rather hang out with a drug dealer than a predjudice little idiot who barely has the diversity to think past the confines of what society dictates.

You think way to much, even if you dont need to.

and thats a bad thing how? atleast someone here thinks...keep thinking LD

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 09 Apr 2006, 22:16

Drugs are illegal and KILL, yes they KILL.

The dealers ignorance is supposed to go unpunished? well goodie for you, people like that make the world what it is and they get off with minor punishments and more people do it, and its a never ending circle of pain and suffering. The pitiful punishment people get for dealing is beyond a joke.

If you want to ignore friends and family who do it that says plenty about you lot. I would grass them up in a heartbeat if they were dealing killer drugs that's for sure, give them the chance to stop and if they dont the police can deal with the criminals. Even weed kills people every week, when a child of yours in the future is knocked over by someone high on weed, come back and say its only weed.

I definitely would not stand by a drug dealer, friend or family, they have the option to stop.

If being a LAW ABIDING CITIZEN is prejudice then that I am, I stick to the laws we have for a reason, as most of them are here to help us.

Drug Dealing is illegal for good reason, if you cannot see that good for you, the scum who kill with drugs everyday must love forgiving people. When someone you know dies from drug related reasons you may rethink these opinions, but it shouldnt have to be that way as they shouldnt do it to start with, as its illegal.

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 09 Apr 2006, 22:22

romerojpg wrote:Drugs are illegal and KILL, yes they KILL.

Which I never denied.

The dealers ignorance is supposed to go unpunished?

And where exactly have you read THAT in this thread? Punishment isn't necessarily always death, you know. And if the government in Singapore for example gives a death sentence to a drug-dealer, it is still different from arbitrary law and shooting the guy.

the68monkey · Post by **the68monkey** » 09 Apr 2006, 22:24

The pictures of your home make the area look so idyllic! Sorry it's been marred with violence, Bisc. I'm sure it's worrying without knowing yet if it was random or not.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 09 Apr 2006, 23:55

Shen wrote:there is far to much bitterness in this world, without holding a grudge against every little thing that happens that you dont like.

We're talking about murder... hardly 'every little thing'.

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 09 Apr 2006, 23:58

I think she was talking about those small-time drug dealers.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 10 Apr 2006, 00:01

thelostdragon wrote:People who want to take drugs will find a way to get their hands on them. It's not the dealers that create them. There soon will be someone replacing him, if there isn't already.

That's not really an answer... I'm not equating drug dealing with murder or physical acts of violence because no one forces addicts to become what they are... but the laissez faire attitude is just as wrong. Drug aking is a serious problem and dealers are a major part of that. If not for them what would users do? Make their own??

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 10 Apr 2006, 00:08

Shen wrote:and what do you class as drug dealers?

Anyone who deals in illegal drugs. Obvious I would have thought?

my sisters deal in drugs, maybe not hard drugs but one of them sells small time stuff like weed and everything are they scum? you know, i dont agree with what they do, but i dont think they deserve to die, even if they are wrong

Of course they don't deserve to die for that. They should, however, be prosecuted. But society doesn't even care enough to do that. No wonder we're in a state.

personally i would rather hang out with a drug dealer than a predjudice little idiot who barely has the diversity to think past the confines of what society dictates.

How is Romero prejudiced? You mean against drug dealers? OK, having them all blasted with a shotgun is OTT, but at least he shows genuine outrage at crime in our society. I hate to say it Shen, but it's accepting, excuse-making liberals like yourself who make society what it is. If it weren't for you, then drug-dealers would be severly punished. But we can't have that can we... it would be infringing their civil liberties.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 10 Apr 2006, 00:11

thelostdragon wrote:I think she was talking about those small-time drug dealers.

Still wouldn't call that "every little thing" as though anyone who complains is a fuddy-ddudy who needs to chill out, man... so-called "soft" drugs are proven to lead to harder drugs and can cause mental illness. Are the scientists who came to those conclusions facists or moaners...?

the68monkey · Post by **the68monkey** » 10 Apr 2006, 00:17

Shen, just so you know, Romero has a long history of enjoying winding people up. He'll say extreme things just to get a reaction.

Oh, and as for Mark? Hopeless conservative. Watch him have a cow if you even dare to call him Markgay instead of Markgway.

We all love each other anyway.