Your worst male and female singers

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 07 May 2005, 22:58

For me I'd go with.

Justin Timberlake and Beyonce Knowles.

Both of whom are fucking atrocious.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 07 May 2005, 23:23

I second Justin Timberlake. I'll think of some more later.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 08 May 2005, 09:22

Don't like Timberlake much though not sure why....

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 08 May 2005, 12:35

Pretty much any hip & hop singers (it's debatable whether they're artists). They're mostly all full of air and fake.

You know the sort of celebrity who has completely lost all connection with reality, their songs are atrocious also.

Ja Rule, Ludicrous, Snoop Doggy Doggy, Missy Elliot, Usher - Okay I can just about stand him. Bar Usher (his real name) why do they all insist in having stupid names?

Why do all the male hip hop singers degrade women so much? Some of their lyrics and actions are dreadful, far more than most porn IMO (excluding Gonzo porn of course)!

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 08 May 2005, 17:47

grim_tales wrote:Don't like Timberlake much though not sure why....

Because he's a squeeky-voiced cock?

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 08 May 2005, 17:49

bradavon wrote:Pretty much any hip & hop singers (it's debatable whether they're artists). They're mostly all full of air and fake.

Yeah, agree totally. I hate the genre. Full of talentless thugs.

Why do all the male hip hop singers degrade women so much?

Because their culture is misogynistic.

Some of their lyrics and actions are dreadful, far more than most porn IMO (excluding Gonzo porn of course)!

Trust you to bring up porn!!

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 08 May 2005, 19:13

A question: Why is it called R&B when black people sing it but pop when white people sing it?

Take "Destiny's Child" they sing pop IMO. Mary J. Blige on the other hand is R&B.

Because their culture is misogynistic.

I wonder where it stems from. Slavery maybe? Just a wild guess.

Trust you to bring up porn!!

Thanks I'll take that as a compliment

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 08 May 2005, 22:29

bradavon wrote:Take "Destiny's Child" they sing pop IMO.

Now I object... when have Destiny's Child ever SUNG?? They've wailed horribly, like strangled cats, but ''sung''? Never.

<<Because their culture is misogynistic.>>
I wonder where it stems from. Slavery maybe? Just a wild guess.

Very wild (and very silly).

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 09 May 2005, 08:10

Interesting. The term R&B (Rhythm and Blues - sp?) came about because someone tried to find a more acceptable word for what was branded "race music" in black America of the 40's/early 50's. This crossed over and eventually turned into rock and roll.
I watched a programme on Saturday.

Its funny what its become now. The likes of Joe Turner and Fats Domino must be turning in their graves, where is the blues in this horrible watered down bling-nonsense that passes for R&B today?

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 09 May 2005, 18:55

I agree Grim. Interesting info there.

Markgway wrote:Very wild (and very silly).

Care to give a better answer?

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 09 May 2005, 23:49

Care to give a better answer?

Nope. Because I don't have one. But since not one single hip-hopper was alive at the time of slavery I think we can safely discount that theory.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 10 May 2005, 11:15

I meant it being a progressive thing from then until today's society, silly man

Mordib · Post by **Mordib** » 10 May 2005, 13:01

Justin timberlakes music sucks, in fact just about everything we see and hear about him suck. cameron diaz and a number of instances of him inexplicably doing his own thing music wise though has got me thinking theres a lot more to the guy than we see

anyways, worst mail singer? the dude that won xfactor worst female singer? Posh spice...

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 10 May 2005, 13:10

Steve (X factor) is poor IMO, his voice is average and he looks like he's just come to fix somebody's roof

Timberlake - Mordib you may be right, also I dont like the fact he's ripped off Michael Jackson recently on a few songs

(Rock your Body etc)

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 10 May 2005, 17:29

bradavon wrote:I meant it being a progressive thing from then until today's society, silly man

I know what you meant... but the idea that black males (and I was actually referring to hip-hop culture not black culture - whatever that is?) are a bunch of misogynist, profane-spouting, blinging, cap-poppin' ill-educated gangstaz, because of a lineage in slavery is of course absolute nonsense. This hip-hop culture is an urban American invention of the last 25 years. To say otherwise is an offence to the hard-working, intelligent black men who fought for their rights to be equal. Did Martin Luther King rap about bitches and hos? I thought not.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 10 May 2005, 17:43

BTW, the person who coined the term R&B was Jerry Wexler, a Billboard Magazine reporter, in the late 1940's.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 10 May 2005, 21:24

grim_tales wrote:BTW, the person who coined the term R&B was Jerry Wexler, a Billboard Magazine reporter, in the late 1940's.

Did you swallow a book on the subject, Grim??

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 11 May 2005, 07:11

Nah, just watched a documentary on BBC2

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 11 May 2005, 10:00

Joe Turner was the original artist of Shake, Rattle and Roll (later covered in a cleaned up/watered down version by Bill Haley).
Still, he is significant himself. His Rock Around The Clock is one of the most important Rockn'Roll records of all time.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 11 May 2005, 15:08

Hey,

This page compares the original (Big Joe Turner) with the version done by Bill Haley and His Comets (with rewritten lyrics):

http://www.history-of-rock.com/shake_ra ... d_roll.htm